Nominate CoinTalk's Best!!!!

Discussion in 'Contests' started by Evorlor, Aug 5, 2010.

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  1. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    We can only say thank you so many times before something needs to be done to show our true gratitude to our mentors.

    On September 1, 2010, a contest will be held to determine and reward CoinTalk’s most helpful members! Each member may nominate up to 5 members. 25 posts are required to make your nominations. Each member may only be nominated once per person. You may not nominate yourself. Please send all nominations to me (Evorlor) via Private Message (PM). The top 10 nominees will gain entry into the competition.

    Your nominations should be based on how much the CoinTalk member has taught and helped you. Your choices should have no bearing on their personality, age, or gifts.

    At the end of the three week period, the 10 nominees with the most votes will be entered into an anonymous poll based on the same attributes. This poll will be active for 14 days before the top three CoinTalk members are selected. Every CoinTalk member, including those whom have been nominated, will be allowed to make one vote for their best choice.

    The prizes:

    3rd place: $25 eBay Gift Card for Coins
    2nd place: $50 eBay Gift Card for Coins
    1st place: 100% of the donations offered by CoinTalk members

    Yes, that is right. The 1st place winner will receive their prize from all of the members whom they have helped! Please post your donations on this thread before the end of the nomination phase. These donations are to show your gratitude to CoinTalk’s best. The donations will be sent to the first place winner from the donator after the voting phase finishes.

    Thank you CoinTalk!
     
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  3. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Well that sounds like a great idea. And that last post you started made me think about this.
    I dont think that most people here get a real thank you from us for helping teach, educate and mentor us in our Numismatic development.

    I'd like to be the first to put up an item for the 1st place and think others should follow if you have learned from these people that don't get paid or anything to help.

    Thanks to the many that have helped me here in the forums.
     
  4. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    There are too many! I can't choose...
     
  5. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    That's the good think...you don't have to nominate I don't think if you don't want to.
    Just wait til the nominations are up if you'd like.
    But yea it's tough to just pick 5 that have helped me. I"m still narrowing down the list myself.
     
  6. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Another bad idea. There are many that help, so I wouldn't want to alienate anyone. If you feel the need to pick the best of something, why not do it for different coins or.....
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I'm just not down with the 'popularity contest' aspect of these threads. There are things written on this forum that are years old by members no longer active that are still relevant and educational but I don't know those people except through their record here. Many people neglect the search function to read about what has been written and opined in the past and a brazen few proudly declare they don't like to read or just find it easier to start a new thread without the slightest bit of investigation into their thread topic.

    Why do you feel the need to make this a contest? Education is not a contest. A new member may not know all the nominees but may feel compelled to vote but overall will be less informed than a member of one year, and that yearling will not know members active here three years or longer. It's not necessary to suggest there is a bias, but lack of experience with this community will probably influence who you vote for since newbies may know fewer members who helped them and for whom to vote for, while others who are not newbies to these forums may have close friends/mentors from other numismatic forums also active here with a whole different body of reasons based on other forum experience as to what defined their choice of nomination here.

    I applaud that you want to pay respect to those who were helpful and welcome the idea of giving praise to members, publicly or privately. I thank people in PMs when I have something to commend them about, thank them for or to express my gratitude for something that I think will demonstrate that their message touched me in some way. Everyone has something to learn and something to lend to others. Like I said before CoinTalk (this collective) is the greatest educator. E Pluribus Unum.
     
  8. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    sorry dbl post
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    That is the attitude that gave us kids soccer that with no scoring and a trophy for all.
    I think we are pretty much all grown ups here.

    With a secret nomination is sound like just people can get complimented to me. Glass half full/half empty.
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Doug wins. :D
    I like the idea, and I don't like the idea.
    Just like everything else that involves voting, it normally is a popularity contest, and some members will treat it that way.
     
  11. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Competition is fine. I don't see this forum as a competition.
     
  12. panda

    panda Junior Member

    i do like the idea of honoring great people, but feel the way this is set-up could be better.

    how about "Coin Talks Annual Best of Awards". you could have the most helpful member just like you wanted. but to honor other members, you could have different awards like, "best username", "funniest member", "most improved collection", "best newb". stuff like that, i got more. the prizes don't even have to be cash or coin's either. someone who is decent at photoshop could make 1st, 2nd and, 3rd place avatars for each category. you can still do the prizes for most helpful, but this way you can make more people happy and would be real fun. i have seen this work on other forums. the one forum i frequent has been doing this since '01! everyone looks forward to it.

    i want to win a Dundie!
     
  13. krispy

    krispy krispy


    • how about "Coin Talks Annual Best of Awards".

    Well the unresolved issue of other existing and little utilized awards comes to mind: ToTW, Clinker Award, 'Rate this Thread' (at top of every thread page, but which seems to get little/no use) and random member Contests that regularly defines certain bests at this or that all the time...


    • you could have the most helpful member just like you wanted.

    It's still not accurate and comes down to campaigning for popularity because there is no way to quantify it for every member nor every vote cast upon a different set of reasons.


    • but to honor other members, you could have different awards like, "best username", "funniest member", "most improved collection", "best newb".

    "best username": The person deemed to be the best then would have been the one who staked their claim to that set of characters first and suggest an absolute in a community that is ever growing, evolving and changing course. This best then would beat all who came before and could only be knocked off by newer members in successive polls or if "popularity" shifted, so the 'best username' wouldn't truly ever have held the best choice of username. I say this because each member chooses what best suits them: be that for ease of setting up at registration on the site, for use when logging into the site, something familiar to people used elsewhere online, something that indicates an aspect of personality or their collecting interest or references their real name, real world nickname... is too broad to define a poll worthy best without generalising and trivializing people's self chosen names. Plus this has existed for some time: Explain your member ID

    "funniest member"
    : it's relative and there could be as many choices as there are members or at least as many active members there are. Not everyone has the same brand of humor nor does everyone agree with the same type of humor and humor is often accomplished at the expense of someone or something else which could potentially inflame, isolate or alienate a member or type of collector here, some who may not even wish the spotlight be cast upon them at your whims.

    "most improved collection"
    : How on Earth do you determine this? Votes would be blind guesses that people even represent their collections honestly.

    "best newb"
    : based on what? experience? pointing out their lack of experience?


    • stuff like that, i got more.

    Well, they are all the same, popularity contests, that are gross generalizations based on aspects about members that can't necessarily be verified for nominations that differ widely upon reasoning that can't readily be agreeable by a vast audience providing nominations/voting.

    • someone who is decent at photoshop could make 1st, 2nd and, 3rd place avatars for each category.

    Sounds like the Best or Most Helpful member doing this work might also have to command this level of ability and the work itself is a donation of time, effort, resources and then, the very skill of using Photoshop must be weighed and agreed upon as the creative aesthetic will come into play in the need to satisfy all those involved.


    • you can still do the prizes for most helpful, but this way you can make more people happy

    "you can please some of the people some of the time..."
    won't work, you're just agreeing to accept a status quo and generalization for your own entertainment.


    • and would be real fun.

    This is your subjective reasoning to support your suggestions and agreement with holding a popularity contest. Contests for Best this and that are held all the time for products, places, restaurants, books, movies, etc. but it is usually just a form of advertising or attempt at profit as these bests too are only defined by people with similar experiences which may not be the tastes and experiences of all active members. These will only amount to a series of bests in your mind that will always differ between members.


    • i have seen this work on other forums. the one forum i frequent has been doing this since '01! everyone looks forward to it.

    references? links? evidence? without it, its just you making it up to support your own ideas...


    Panda, I'm not trying to pick on your post specifically, I'm just trying to illustrate that it's not going to be inclusive of all members of such a diverse forum, but rather a clique of likeminded, currently active members making use of others currently active and known members to toss around personal favorites to weigh who amongst the current active members who participates thinks alike, which further allows you to align yourself into narrower member groups via a scheme or campaign of popularity ideals which are at best only of the moment, fleeting and indefinable.

    What I'm saying is that CoinTalk does not need popularity contests.
     
  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's nice that you want to show your gratitude to those who have been so helpful, but I think this is the wrong way to go about it.

    Chris
     
  15. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    How about A$$HOLE of the month contest...
     
  16. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    I think there are a handfull of people who deserve the vote beacuse they are always trying to help and then there are the others who help based on the specific question. I guess its a quantity not quality thing. There are a few who really go out of there way to help. I think this whole forum deserves a vote.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    This is not a good idea. And please refrain from any similar notions in the future.

    If you want there is already a way to honor helpful members - the Clinker Award. Make use of it. I have not received a single nomination since 7/16.
     
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