No way it's MS66

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  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

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  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    From the pics it sure doesn't look 66 , it looks like luster break over her ear , looks like an old label too . IMO
    rzage
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    not to mention the marks all over the chin..

    Ruben
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTW - I thought PSGC hasn't changed its standards over the years.

    Ruben
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    But this is something I heard so don't take it as fact , that they are getting more lenient lately .
    rzage:thumb:
     
  8. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    the reason why they gave it that grade, because of the prooflike fields it brings it up a few notches
    JAZZCOINS Joe
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Not on any grading system I've seen. In fact,


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    That is an NCG MS63 PL
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Your 63 PL , is a lot nicer overall not counting the PL finish , nice Morgan .
    rzage
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I know. I've never seen a Morgan grade 66 with that many surface scratches.

    Ruben
     
  12. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    What you are seeing are blemishes, more than scratches on the chin etc etc . The fields have a nice light cameo proof like look to them even through they didn't designate that in the slab. i believe that;s why the coin probably made that grade like i said before. Jazzcoins Joe
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ruben,

    There is a difference between luster grazes and bag marks. There is no way to tell from that original photo if the chin chatter is either one. My guess is that they are mostly luster grazes given the assigned grade.

    Your MS63PL is nice but angled photos of PL coins tend to hide defects. If you took a straight on photo of both coins with the same camera, I think you would clearly see why each was graded the way they were.

    Paul
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    PAUL

    thanks. I still think though that there is a problem with the grade. It seems to be not the only one on that site for some reason. A 66 should be near flawless of any luster break and we should be looking at strike quality and looking for the smallest nicks.


    Ruben
     
  15. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    actually it looks like a scan...
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I agree that it looks liberally graded, it is just that that pic/scan is really bad. I can't remember the last Morgan Dollar I saw overgraded by more than one point. It is a very easy series to grade and one that every grader has much experience grading. Definitely no sticker for that dog.
     
  17. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Don't get Ruben going with CAC stickers , he'll start putting them everywhere .
    rzage:D;)
     
  18. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Paul

    I agree, and I couldn't see buying it without holding it in my hands.

    Ruben
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Cmon, it's funny!
     
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    What


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  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Lol
     
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