Nice Discovery: 1957D From A B.U Roll

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by steve.e, May 2, 2012.

  1. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    look at around 2 oclock there is a raised area on the rim of the rev. IMG_3804.jpg IMG_3806.jpg IMG_3810.jpg IMG_3807.jpg IMG_3813.jpg I think there was another raised area on the obv it would have been on the exact oppisite side. some how the die cought the raised area and left two d's on the coin. what do yall think? I think this is the coolest error i have ever found! From a BU roll of 57D's.
     
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  3. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    If I was at a car dealership looking at brand new cars and an airplane fell out of the sky on one of the brand new shiney cars.. Would that car be an error? Or perhaps is was Damaged Post Manufacture? Just because it was in a mint roll, shiney and new doesnt mean that it could not have happened post minting.

    I believe your looking at a coin that was damaged post mint, not an error
     
  4. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    oh yeah, what do think about the amatuer pics
     
  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    so a d shaped piece of copper fell from the sky,and landed on the exact other d. give me a little credit here i hava been looking a this coin for a long time figuring all the possible scenarios.
     
  6. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I agree with Jim. You don't have a D on top of another D. You have half of a D that was pushed down and the other half that remained in place.
    Nice pics though.
     
  7. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    It does however look like the top parts of 2 Ds are there. IMHO it may not be PMD. Maybe a dropped letter (D) that fell on the coin during the pressing?
     
  8. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    thanks everyone for the info. i wish we had a forum where we could all meet,and look at the real stuf and not just pics
     
  9. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I agree that would be the ideal. Remember, the opinions are just opinions.
    In the case of your coin you try and envision what the die would have to look like to strike your coin, remembering that the die is a negative image. Where there are raised areas on the coin you have to have sunken areas on the die and vice versa for incuse areas on the coin. Thats what I based my opinion on.
     
  10. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    wheat back cents are really bad for having laminated areas on them. this may have been a area that was already loose from the rest of the coin then something may have got caught on it and pushed it down. if this is the case then this pushed down area is a thin flap of the copper coin that is loose from the coin on the end next to the D. it looks like in the photo that part of the loose piece { if this is what it is} is also covering part of the letter O. I'm only guessing because all I have to go by is the photos.

    a counter clash could be a possibility but I don't see any other evidence of a die clash.
     
  11. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Appears to be a lamination or damage. The rim is pulled down which leads me to believe it was struck with something. Remember that the rolls are put together by third parties so it is possible that even though it's BU, it could have been damaged post strike.
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Just basing my thoughts on the photos that we have here. You can send the coin to Mike Diamond, Ken Potter, John Wexler, Mike Ellis, James Wiles, James Essense or a number of others for confirmation if you like. if you need contact info for any of them shoot me a PM and I would be happy to make the connection for you.
     
  13. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    All of your opinins are great. I pointed out the raised area of the rim on the rev.
    I beleve there had to be a raised area similer to that in the affected area on the obv.
    or on the coin struck before this one. there is no doubt that there is extra metal.
    the (normal) D is all there partly coverd by the second D, and extra metal. The second D is at least 90% there only it is broken from the strike.by the way yhe thickness of the coin is normal in the affected area.
     
  14. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    I still think it may be "dropped letter" incident, but more like a dropped piece of the previous coin struck, that stuck in the obverse die and then fell onto this coin. But, that's just my opinion.
     
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