Nice ancient Mold

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Old World Coins, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. Old World Coins

    Old World Coins Well-Known Member

    I recently purchased this clay mold portion from a dealer (who i get alot of ancients from) who had purchased it from a dealer that lived in China a long time. The coin is a 73B.C. Western Han Dynasty Anonymous WuZhu coin. I actually was very fortunate and had one similar example in my closet downstairs. You can see both together in the last picture.

    The mold appears to have been fairly large as this a small corner. An expert I know in China stated these would generally have an official code mark put into the mold some place.
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice find, @Old World Coins . They have been around for a while...

    MY CHINESE POUR-CAST MOLD:

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    Wu Zhu coin clay mold
    unearthed in SanMenXia City in HeNan Province
    full obverse impression partial second impression
    probly H-8.6 110-90 BCE
    Ex: @TypeCoin971793
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

  5. otlichnik

    otlichnik Well-Known Member

    Very nice!

    I can't make out the shape of the upper fork on the Zhu on OldWorldCoins' example, but it has a nice very narrow Wu that should assist with identification of the variety.

    Alegandron, when I look at yours I see a rounded upper fork on the Zhu which would indicate that this is an Eastern Han Wu Zhu and not a Western Han example.

    Here is my own. It definitely has rounded upper forks on the Zhus and so is Eastern Han. Given its size - the impressions are 26 mm diameter - it is likely from the early Eastern Han era, probably circa later Emperor Guangwu Di or Emperor Ming Di (40-75 AD). I have tentatively attributed it as B4.1 from Gratzer and Fishman's "One Thousand Years of Wu Zhu Coinage, 118 BC - AD 958".

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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I know the dealer who sold that to you! I’ve sold him several mould fragments.

    Here is my first mould I got:

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    Here is a fragment I used to have along with a sprue that I still have:

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    Here are a few mother moulds I have that were used to make clay moulds:

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    Here is an error mould I have where blobs of metal and a partially-formed coin are adhered to it.

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    I have several others, but I currently don’t have pictures of them.

    This is a lot I was bidding on, but I did not win. I would have bid double what it went for, but my funds were wiped out. The lot went very cheaply (like $500) :(

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  7. otlichnik

    otlichnik Well-Known Member

    Nice stuff. The patina of the first one looks just like mine. Mine came from a dealer in Zhejiang.

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  8. Old World Coins

    Old World Coins Well-Known Member

    oh wow those full moulds are amazing. I would have hoped on it as well.
     
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