NEWP: AE22, Apameia, Phyrgia

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here's another coin I've been wanting to collect for some time, but couldn't find a decent budget example. I don't expect perfection from what I'm willing to spend, but the details on this coin were sufficiently strong to warrant the small outlay.

    For one thing, I find the portrayal of Athena on Apameian coins intriguing - she seems pensive, almost human. The eagle is flatly struck on the left but otherwise strong, the inscription is all there, as well as most of the caps of the dioskouri and stars. Also, the meander pattern is quite clear, which is a distinctive feature of Apameians. A little crusty and rough, but attractive color.

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    Phrygia, Apameia . Circa 133-48 BC. AE 23mm (6.77 gm). Obv.: Bust of Athena right, wearing high-crested Corinthian helmet and an aegis. Rev.: AΠAMEΩN, eagle alighting on basis with meander pattern, flanked by caps of the Dioskouroi, star above, magistrate’s name unclear.

    Post your coins of Apameia, or post coins of Athena, or eagles, or whatnot - I'm not particular. :)
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I like the type quite a bit and have admired several in recent auctions.
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great obverse portrait.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I like the obverse on this one. I, too, have been looking at these in the past, but haven't gotten around to buying one yet.
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Very nice! I have a similar coin but Eusebeia-Sebaste. ( and not so pretty)
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What an all round excellent coin! Either I've not seen the type before or the examples I've come across haven't grabbed my attention. This one sure does, though.

    Here's a smaller coin from Apameia.

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    PHRYGIA, Apameia
    AE16, 3.31g
    Circa 133 - 48 BC.
    Weber 7030; BMC 47; SNG von Aulock 3472.
    O: Turreted head of Artemis as Tyche right, bow and quiver over shoulder.
    R: APAME ARISTA KHFIS to right and left of Marsyas, walking right, naked, but for cloak behind, playing the aulos.
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This is another example of interesting Apameian portraiture. Tyche's face is expressive in a style that's unique to these coins. The best word I can think of is pensive.
     
  9. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Another little one from Apameia AE of Apameia, Syria. 27-26 BC. Helmeted head of Athena.jpg
    AE of Apameia, Syria. 27-26 BC. Helmeted head of Athena right /APAMEWN THSIERAS KAI ASU(LOU)to left and right of Nike advancing left, holding wreath and palm.VPSdownwards to left. RPC 4342; Hoover 1422.
    21mm 7.4 grams
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice choice JA, i was sniffing around of a couple of the type recently. the reverse of the type is cool, i love the eagle dioscuri cap combo.

    here's my dioscuri cap with stars "abe lincoln" nikephoros.

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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    Similar Androniklei??? under in two lines???
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yours appears to be on a bigger flan, Doug. I'm completely missing the magistrate on mine.
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yeeeehaaaaa => another winna, JA!! (sweet score) ...

    ... oh, and great additions, fellas ...


    Phrygia Apameia,
    Athena & Eagle between Pilei

    100-50 BC

    phya.jpg phyb.jpg


    => curious? ... I had a slightly different time-period in my notes (seller's notes) ...

    ... sadly, my sharp example of Athena looks a bit like a nasty fella!! ... ummm, in my dreams she's not lookin' at all like my coin-example!! (I like to think of her more like this)

    Athena Mmmmm.jpg


    JA => your example is a bit closer to "heaven" than my example (great pick-up)

    Huh? => now that I'm thinking about it => why isn't it an "owl" between pilei? (that's her go-to bird!!?)

     
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's a good question, but her association with the owl is strongest in Athens, and it seems to dissipate the further away you get. Syncretic appropriations of Athena into local pantheons where other symbols are more important? But I'm with you: I'll take sexy Athena any day.
     
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  15. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Here is my Apameia example.

    Artemis as Tyche with Marsyas playing the double flute on the reverse.

    Not sure what Magistrate it is. Anyone know?

    I love this little low ball, it is just worn so smooth and yet most everything is there. It's a pleasure to hold, it feels really good.

    apamiea Artemis as Tyche flute player.JPG
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    "wow ... silky"

    => sweet eye-appeal
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice coin, Doucet! Marsyas is definitely on my list - still looking for a coin with enough detail that fits into the budget.
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => Baby Marsyas has back!!


    :woot:
     
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  19. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Thanks stevex and JA,

    I got lucky with this one ...sixteen $ shipped.

    My photos are not so good anymore. My wife took over the window I used to shoot by for her plants and I'm having trouble finding another place in the house to take pictures.
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    doucet => if that's what happens when you're draped over your wife while you're awkwardly snappin' photos, then "please" keep gettin' all up in her grill, my friend (those are amazing photos!!)
     
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