NEWP - 1804 Spike Chin Half Cent

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Randy Abercrombie, Oct 26, 2024.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    A few months back I ran a thread about a spike chin half cent that had been in my collection for years and had come back from the TPG as counterfeit. That half cent now resides in @Jack D. Young Darkside collection. Well I have refilled that gaping void in my collection with the lovely lady below……I had put in what I thought was a winning bid only to find that I was beaten by five bucks. The owner being quite the gentleman and fellow CT’r offered her to me when the high bidder failed to pay. What a gentleman.

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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Not to cast aspersions on a gentleman and fellow CT member,
    but if the high bidder wouldn't pay and then the coin is offered to the next bidder, why does that sound like shill bidding?
     
  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I could see the reason that would appear that way. However the coins was offered to me $95.00 less than I had bid….. It was a fully genuine deal.
     
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  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes I am glad. I am sure it was just a coincidence.
    Just my skeptical nature. I am glad it worked out for both parties,
    those are the best kinds of deals.
    Unique variety the spiked chin (die break?). I have some half cents as I think they have been under valued for a long time considering the low mintages across the board. But nothing like this which is a special coin.
     
  6. 1776

    1776 Active Member

    I’ve bid on them for years and always come up short. Guess I’ll just have to outright buy one
     
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  7. 1776

    1776 Active Member

    That’s a sweet 95$ spiked chin
     
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  8. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Me thinks you need to re-read @Randy Abercrombie's post again. He didn't say he paid $95 for it. He said the seller offered it to him for $95 less than the bid Randy put into the auction. I have no idea how much that original bid was. It might have been $500. Then the seller offered it to him for $405.

    I wasn't involved, so what I'm saying is mere conjecture. I'm sure Randy will clarify it when he re-visits this thread.
     
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  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I bid $295.00. I was outbid at $300.00. That buyer didn’t pay so the seller offered to me at $200.00. I paid him $295.00….. Also sent me three Byzantine folles, two large cents and a spanking nice Indian head cent!
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Neat. I've never seen that variety.
    And it looks like she's sticking her tongue out :p
     
  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    ...And if there was a die chip on her tongue it would be a "Tongue Bar". :rolleyes:
     
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  12. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Interesting half cent, Randy. I once had an extensive collection of half cents but never this one. Congrats on your pickup.

    Bruce
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    As a young boy, I remember seeing pictures of this one in the Red Book and thinking, "Well that's weird, how did that happen?" Thought the same about the Bugs Bunny Franklin.

    Cool coin, congrats.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Congratulations on getting a nice looking Spiked Chin variety Randy. Somewhere I have one just like it. Lots of varieties on these older coins.
     
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  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The Spiked Chin 1804 half cent is known with four different reverses. The die is known with two reverses before it was damaged, which created the Spiked Chin. One guess is that a screw got beteen the dies which left the spike and the treads of the screw caused the marks in the field.

    The obverse die was injured when this variety was in the coin press. This is a Cohen vareity 1804, #5. I believe that the screw broke the reverse die which shows a large crack.

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    The coin in the OP is Cohen 1804 #8 which is the most common Spiked Chin variety.
     
  16. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    The 1804 spiked chin C-6 has been a favorite of counterfeiters for a series of various dated fakes. Picked one of the easiest to attribute which is good for us...
     
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  17. 1776

    1776 Active Member

    HA Good thing the wife was a banker and read all contracts
     
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  18. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    So it seems like there would have been a coin with a strong strike-through from the screw. It's probably lost to time by now though.
     
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  19. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    And it looks like she's spitting too! ...:jawdrop::p:joyful::joyful::joyful:
     
  20. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I feel you. I too married "up".
     
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  21. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    @Randy Abercrombie , the jury is still out on the original one you posted! I am going to do a little rim test cut to see if there is anything else to learn!
     
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