Newbie Question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Ugaman72, Mar 13, 2007.

  1. Ugaman72

    Ugaman72 New Member

    I have a newbie/opinion question for you all. What is your opinions on placing coins in albums? Would/do any of you actually place expensive coins in albums (most of the ones I have are the Dansco albums with the two plastic sliding sheets of paper). Is there any chance of damage from these albums? Can the sliding plastic rub the coins? Is there a way of diminishing this? Thanks in advance for any advice/help!!
     
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  3. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I've been putting coins in Whitman Albums for longer than I can remember. Way, way back I used to put them in those folders and them slowly put them into Albums. ALL of my coins are in aobums except the over runs, duplicates, errors, miscellaneous. Many, many albums and no problems with anything as to damage from the albums. I remember when I was a kid and had to push some of the coins into those slots in the binder types for collections. Some were so tight I had to just about stand on the coin to get them into the albums. Of course 50 to 60 years ago no one cared.
     
  4. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum!!!
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And while your pushing the coin into the album, those cotton gloves will scratch the surface of the coin even worse than your finger will ;)
     
  6. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    Then why do they sell cotton gloves for putting your coins in albums?
     
  7. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    I put most of my coins in albums. It's much easier to show them off to friend's. People don't want to look thru boxes of slabbed coins.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    They don't, they sell cotton gloves so people can handle them correctly without getting body oils on the coins. It has nothing to do with albums.

    When it comes to using albums for coins, all you have to do is think for minute. What is the number one rule that any coin collector learns ? You can look it up in a hundred books or you can look it up on a thousand web sites - but the rule is always the same. And that is - never touch the surface of your coins.

    Now, ask yourself a question - how do you get a coin into an album without touching the surface ? Answer - you don't, it's impossible.

    When albums were first designed and created they were made for one reason and only one reason - to allow coin collectors assemble their coins in a manner in which they could view them all. But at the time - the 1930's - 99.9% of all collectors got their coins from their pocket change. Coin albums were designed to place circulated coins into. And if touched the surface of a circulated coin - so what ? You got it out of your pocket didn't you ?

    But in todays world, because collecting by albums became popular, people are placing flawless Proofs and brilliant uncirculated coins into albums that were never designed with the intention of holding such coins. And why ? Because even back then the number one rule was the same as it today - don't touch the surface of your coins ! Unless of course they are well circulated.
     
  9. jbm5749

    jbm5749 New Member

    I am a new member with a question... On mint sealed $1000.00 boxes of the new presidential dollars, how can you determine which mint, P or D they come from??
     
  10. Ugaman72

    Ugaman72 New Member

    That's one of my major questions. I see people selling collections (I'll use the 50 state quarter collection as an example) and have them housed in a Dansco album. The ones I've seen even have the proof silver coins in the albums. Isn't this risky with a proof coin where just one small scratch could ruin it? I want my coins in an album without the risk. Do any album makers make albums that hold 2x2's in a similar way to the albums? This could be a money maker for some entrepreneur out there.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Absolutely. If the coins are in an album, you can bet they are marked. And you'll win the bet ;)

    No such thing exists. They do make plastic sheets to hold them, they go in a 3 ring binder.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I don't know that you can. But it's a pretty sure thing that if the box was obtained west of the Mississippi - it's a D. East and it's a P.
     
  13. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    This is great information. It says it all. If you want a MS collection, your not going to find it in a press in holder. Therefore don't collect MS coins that way. 2X2 flips or airtite holders are better suited for the MS coins, that you have handled with your "clean" cotton gloves, by the way.
     
  14. smullen

    smullen Coin Hoarder

    So bangin my coins in the holes with on of the wife's high heels could effect them????

    :goofer:

    I have a bunch of ""Circulated" coins in folders or albums, but all my nice MS coins are either in Flips, or Slabs... Some are TPG slabs, some are generic slabs I bought from JPs Coins....
     
  15. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I have a question then. How do they, at any of the TPG companies, place the coins into the slab without pressing the coin into the holder somehow. I have broken a few coins out of their slabs and they seem to fit fairly snug in the holder. I'm just curious how they go about this assuming the vast majority of what's slabbed are MS coins from any of the TPGs. This would even apply to lower graded coins as far as affecting the coins surface. Would anyone have an answer for this?
     
  16. smullen

    smullen Coin Hoarder



    You discovered the hoax.... Game Over now...

    J/K...

    You have a Good question for which I do not have the answer...

    I can't wait to see the theories on this...

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Ugaman72

    Ugaman72 New Member

    Thanks for the opinions guys. I think I'll keep putting most all of my coins in albums. I'll continue handling them with gloves, and keep mint state and proofs in 2x2's or slabs. This seems like a plan I can live with. At least until I can think of a better way of displaying them, or patent a new album type that will let me have the best of all worlds. Thanks again for the opinions.
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Yes, it could effect them... it might damage your wife's high heels, and make for a very unpleasant evening. :hug:
     
  19. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    In PCGS slabs, the coin is surrounded by a flexible O-ring... it's kinda like silicone rubber. I don't know the exact material. It seems like these would be the easiest to slide around the coin with minimal surface contact.

    In NGC's slabs, the coin is surrounded by a much more rigid material. Seems more difficult to get in / out without significant surface contact.

    So yes - the act of slabbing (or cracking out) involves some impact to the coin - very small, but non-zero.
     
  20. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    WOW, GDJMSP know everything, and I have been a collector sice 1947....
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It's not hard, the slabs come in two halves - a top & bottom. Place the bottom on the table, sit the coin in the hole - no pushing required. Place the top on the bottom half and run the thing thru the sonic welder. All done.
     
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