The attached pictures attempt to show what i strongly believe is milling around the edge, much like the reeding on a quarter at arms length. I believe this was done at the mint and not post-mint damage because the letters on he edge of the coin are OVER what I believe is reeding. In other words the reeding is there but it does not distort the lettering at all. What do you think? Have I finally found a good one?!
If the dings are in the recesses of the letters then they might of been there before the edge lettering was put on. But they're just dings.
I think it is an attempt by someone to make it look like reeding. I disagree that they are just dings. Speedy
We all need something to strongly believe in but it looks like you have only a dollar. If you really feel THAT strongly that it's not post mint damage then submit it to NGC and see what happens. You can always sell it on ebay raw for an opening bid of $5.99. If it sells it won't be hard to make, I mean find, more of them. The marks are not uniform in length or depth and they aren't even parallel. Either the coin got stuck in a machine or someone did it on purpose. I don't see any value added.
If you are accusing me of manipulating the coin to make it look that way, then you are mistaken. I assure you it is exactly the way I found it in the roll. I dont care whether you believe that or not. Anyone who has been into coins for more than 5 minutes knows you cant score a coin UNDER the lettering. The edge lettering is over the marks, so it was done at the mint....period. Here are some further pictures to show why I believe it is reeding around the edge. The last pictures were VERY close up so you dont get the full effect. These are a little farther away, and some comparing it with a regular washington dollar out of the same roll. I do not wish to convince anyone of anything, only to show the anomaly as best I can. I WILL submit it to NGC...... and when it comes back as a new error, I will let some of you true haters out there bid on it on Ebay. But it won't be $5.99!!!!! Man, some of you people need to get out into the real world. Bunch of haters and nay-sayers are all you jerks are,lol. Enjoy the pics.
By the way, a little inside information....... The Washington dollar is exactly the same size as the Susie B. The Susie B. has a reeded edge. When compared, the marks line up perfectly with the reeded edge of the S>B>
I would like to see the obv and rev, if it has some reeding, it would have to be on a fully struck sacagawea coin, not a planchet. Should be signs of a previous strike.
Maybe you shouldn't post on a message board asking for people's opinions if you don't really want to hear them. Maybe you'd rather someone lied to you? Your coin is an amazing one of a kind major mint error. Someone call Mike Byers. Maybe he will trade his entire inventory for your one amazing error coin. Quit your job and sell your house, you're movin' to Beverly... Hills that is. Is that what you wanted to hear? :thumb:
You have one major problem Shake - the reeding on a coin is imparted to the coin by the collar when the coin is struck. And the Pres. coins are struck with a 3 piece collar that is completely smooth. So it is physically impossible for the coin to have reeding - sorry. Now, what it could be is minor damage caused by that 3 piece collar or minor damage caused by the edge lettering process. But it is absolutely not reeding.
i didn't mean to offend.............if i indeed did...............yikes! lighten up, we all love you here, shake. grizz
Read what GDJMSP posted and then read it again. This is not reeding on your coin. I sure hate to see you spend the money to send it to NGC to only get it back in a Body Bag, but I guess that is the only way you are going to take it. I hope you will stay around and keep us updated when the coin comes back. Speedy
Please clarify what you mean by "under the lettering". Do you mean "through the lettering such as inside the O in GOD, or do you truly mean under the lettering as in you look down inside the depression of the impressed letter itself and you can still see traces of the crushed grooves down in those depressions? And I can't see how those groves could exactly match up with the reeds on a SBA dollar. As mentioned their spacing is uneven and not even parallel. I don't think anyone here has accused you of tampering with the coin, we just see it as most likely the result of damage to the coin and not the result of a mint process (damage that occurs inside the mint is still just damage.) The reason I belive it is damage is because I can't see how it could occur during the minting process. If the marks were from a SBA dollar then it would have to have been a struck coin getting into the president dollar press and being struck again. But one, a struck coin will not fit back down into the collar (This is one point where I think GDJMSP is wrong. The business strike coins are struck in a one piece plain collar like cents, nickels and Sac dollars. You would have no problems ejecting the coin from a plain collar so there is no reason for it to be segmented. Why add the unneeded complexity on a high speed coining operation? The Proof presidents use segmented collars because they form the edge letters during the striking and you couldn't eject the coin without destroying the edge inscriptions unless you use a segmented collar.) Since neither the Sac or the president uses a reeded collar there would be no reason to have one around that could create the grooves seen on your coin. The mint hasn't used a reeded collar that size since 1999. Two, since the coin was struck with a plain edge the grooves would have to have been created before, during or after the lettering of the edge. If they were created before the lettering the flat areas of the lettering dies would have crushed the grooves and I see no evidence of that. but if it did happen and somehow they were not crushed by the die flats then we would see the crushed grooves down inside the depressions of the letters themselves. In order to have been created during the lettering it would have to be the result of defective edge dies and Ican't see anyway that an edge die with obvious raised bars across it would get past even the most cursery inspection and put into production. I'm not even sure how you could create one. This leaves the last and most likely case, some how they were created after the lettering possibly in a piece of machinery somewhere. But in that case they are post mint damage no matter where the damage occured.
Correct - I mixed up the collar type. Proofs have a 3 piece collar, business strikes a 1 piece. But in an case, the business strike collar is smooth.
