New to Collecting - How to Collect Presidential Dollars?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LTCM, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. LTCM

    LTCM New Member

    I promise never to ask another stupid question but I'm pretty new to coin collecting and would like to begin by collecting the Presidential dollars that are supposed to come out this year. What's the best way to go about this? Would it be smart to attempt to buy bags from the mint? Are coins in bags considered collectable for the long term? I'm just planning to buy them and hold on to them. Should a person try to get bags from all of the mints? Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks, LTCM
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    First, Welcome.
    Second, the only stupid question is the one that you know the answer to, but ask anyway.
    Third: I am not sure, so the question is not that stupid.
    4th: Someone will answer you shortly.
     
  4. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Welcome to our forum glad to have you.:hail:
     
  5. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    Welcome.

    4 Presidents per year, Philly & Denver. Thats 8 bags at $347 each = $2776 plus shipping. Over 10 years its gonna cost you over $30,000. and you can't even see the coins.
     
  6. Old Silver

    Old Silver New Member

    Hello LTCM. If you want to order them in bulk (bags, rolls), as you are implying, you should get them from the mint directly. Yes, it will be expensive but not as expensive as if you obtain them on the secondary market. If you just want to collect a few uncirculated examples of each (less than a roll), then you can get them from internet sales/auctions, coin dealers, coin shows, etc.. IMHO, you can pretty much forget about finding them in circulation.
     
  7. Outlaw

    Outlaw Senior Member

    i am waiting to see if they come out with the silver proof set.i think that is where the real value awaits.
     
  8. skinnyeddie

    skinnyeddie Member

    Not a dumb question since I was wondering the same thing. I just want to get a P, D, and S, but wasn't sure how they will be released. I'd rather not have to buy some high-falutin' package deal for each coin. Mostly just a nice version I can put in a Dansco album for display.
     
  9. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I wouldnt go to the expense of buying bags of those If you want a few of these from each P and D mint then just order rolls from the mints web site at www.usmint.gov. Thats what Im thinking of doing plus I subscribed to recieve both the silver and regular proof sets.
     
  10. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    The best way I think is to buy then straight from the mint as they haven't been released yet. The alternative is to wait and buy graded coins. I wouldn't put away rolls or bags of them as they will probably be minting a gazillion of them.
     
  11. Old Silver

    Old Silver New Member

    Why? All you will do is pay a premium for common, circulating issues encased in a worthless plastic coffins with the false impression that you have something rare and valuable when in fact (in your own words)............

    Maybe you will be lucky and get "First Strike-Early Release" MS-70's worth thousands of $$$$$$.

    I'm sorry but this seemingly non-stop belief that every coin that the mint issues belongs in plastic is getting rediculous. Break them out, throw away that darn plastic junk and enjoy coins the way they were meant to be enjoyed. Feel the force, Luke! Avoid the dark side! The TPG's are just humans with magnifiers and not Gods on plastic thrones atop Mount Olympus!
     
  12. glaciermi

    glaciermi Senior Member

    I'll probably get two (2) 25 count rolls of each from the mint. Thats $140 a president (P&D). I'll open one roll for friends and work associates and keep one roll sealed.

    I figure if you do this throughout the length of the issue, a complete P&D set should cost you $115 ea for $88 or so dollars. My line of thought is that a complete set will certainly be worth $115 ea, probably double that, so I forsee some payoff.. like a light at the end of the tunnel.

    In addition you will have the "S" Proof coins.. and rumor has it that they may make an "S" Silver coin of each president, that will be the nice one!
     
  13. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    I think all the people that do it that way end up with scratched coins in the long run. The idea is the slabs protect the coins, so you can enjoy them but also have them retain their value over time. It is better to have the plastic on the slab scratched than the coin.

    Also, does anyone have a number on the number of coins of the 19th century that have graded a 70? I think most collectors used that method back then and it looks like none of the coins survived long in the top 2 grades. Just looking down the pop reports I see no 70's and almost no 69's from long ago.

    So I think getting graded coins today makes sense, now we can discuss what are the best coins to get and that may be better for a different discussion, but I think the collectors in a hundred years will be happy that the coins of today are being cared for as well as they are for future generations.
     
  14. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I plan to simply buy one of each :)
     
  15. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    and Einstien was just a man with chalk, and my plumber is just a man with a wrench, but I need my plumber and value Einstein. I agree with your initial premise that these coins are not worth investing a ton of money into and that someone needs to have a lot of money to waste on a bad investment to chase a MS70 coin, especially one of the upcoming dead presidents variety with thousands of dollars.

    But the drift into generalized TPG bashing is something I don't understand. I see very little wrong with third party graders and slabs for coins (Comic Books are another matter). In fact, for many purchased coins, I think you need to have a reliable 3rd party grade in the slab before laying out $500 bucks for a coin, UNLESS your name happens to be Doug ;)

    Ruben
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    BAGS? BAGS? That might be way past collecting and into hording already. You don't really want to hord these coins, do you? The interesting thing about these coins might be the engraving on the side, especially in proof. But my guess is that fad will grow uninteresting real quick. The most interesting ones might be the ones for Presidents who were wifeless.

    Ruben
     
  17. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    why do you think that?
     
  18. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Actually it is the spouse that will be the interesting coin, the return of the flowing Hair Liberty!

    Thomas Jefferson Presidency Thomas Jefferson first spouse coin obv Thomas Jefferson first spouse coin rev
    Years Served: 1801-1809 Release Date: 05-13-07
    Thomas Jefferson's wife died in 1782, so there was no First Lady during his administration. The obverse features Liberty as she appeared on the half cent coin of 1800-1808. The reverse shows his burial place and final words.

    [​IMG]

    They could have used Hensen ;)
     
  19. Fropa

    Fropa Senior Member

    My bank asked me if I wanted them to get me one or more rolls of each of the Pres dollars. So I'll get 1 roll of each from the Denver mint from my bank, for face value. Now I need to find someone on the east coast that wants to trade a few of their Ps for a few of my Ds.
     
  20. dman1222

    dman1222 New Member

    Is there a date that these presidential coins will be released?
     
  21. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    sweet
     
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