New reverse on Sacagawea dollars

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  1. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    Now the mint want's to sell more sacagawea dollars, so They are going to change the reverse every year for the next 10 years..Your opinion wanted....
     
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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    HAHAHAH That says it all IMHO
     
  4. FHDave

    FHDave Senior Member

    proof please. I have heard this a couple of times on this forum, but have not seen it any where else.

    what is the mint going to do over the next 10 years to the Sacagawea's and where is this documented?
     
  5. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ed,I think the design of the Sacagawea $1 will stay the same.After all,the eagle evokes the memory of the Flying Eagle Cent of 1857-58.

    Aidan.
     
  6. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member


    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-585

    "SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Native American $1 Coin Act'. . . "

    It's still just a bill.
     
  7. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    Proof...It's on the front page of the march 5th issue of Coin World.
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    IMHO its another crazy idea to waste more money and make a fool out of the collectors
     
  9. FHDave

    FHDave Senior Member

    lol...yeah, my copy of Coin World was sitting there when I came home today. right there on the front page was the article about the proposed legislation.

    sorry, it just was that I kept seeing these references to the Sacagawea's changing their reverses, and no one had any more information other than it was supposed to be happening.
     
  10. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    Its a dumb idea.

    But......I noticed that the Bill is a Senate bill and could be just the vehicle for movement of the house bill to add D.C. and the territories onto the state quarter program.
    That bill has passed in the house again but has no support in the Senate. If the 2 were combined,plus maybe one of the many commerative coin bills that have been put forward, into an omnibus coin bill, like the one that authorized the President dollars, Gold buffalos and 2009 commem. cents, members of both houses would get behind it.
     
  11. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper


    I started a thread about 8-10 days ago listing the article in coin world. The Thread topic is "Hold on to your Sac's"

    RickieB
     
  12. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Ridiculous! If this passes the House and Senate, there will be three 1-dollar coin series minted each year, and none of them will circulate! The legislation authorizing the Presidential dollar series clearly states that one out of every three dollar coins must be a Sacagawea. In turn, the design parameter for the Sac. clearly states that the reverse must have an eagle. According to this version of the Native American Coin Act, the reverse will not have an eagle. In that case, the mint will have to make an additional $ coin, featuring the Sacagawea obverse and a Native American symbol/person on the reverse. Also, what is the deal with this 'Sakakawea'? Is there some confusion as to what her name actually was? The whole thing is a scary thought!

    By the way, does anyone know who supplies the Mint with dollar planchets? It may be time to buy some stock in that company. ;)

    My $0.02,
    09S
     
  13. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    It would put a few more of the Billions of Sac's the mint MUST make in the next ten years into peoples collection.
    I still think its dumb.
    The Sac reverse is the best design of any of the small dollar coins so far.
     
  14. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    I reckon that both the Sacagawea & Presidential $1 reverses are cool! The idea of having a Native American coin programme sounds like a good idea in theory,but I can guess it won't fly.

    Aidan.
     
  15. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Why?

    I'll let you in on a little secret - What Congress enacts, Congress can change!

    Title 31, United States Code §5112(d) is the law requiring certain elements to appear on all US coins, including the Eagle on the reverse of dollars.

    This Bill adds Subdv. (r)(1), which includes a provision that “Effective beginning January 1, 2009, notwithstanding subsection (d) . . . the Secretary shall mint and issue $1 coins . . . [with] a design on the reverse [which] shall bear--(i) images celebrating the important contributions made by Indian tribes and individual Native Americans to the development of the United States and the history of the United States;(ii) the inscription `$1' ; and (iii) the inscription `United States of America'”.

    In other words, the Bill effectively writes subdv. (d) out of the law governing the modified Sac dollars. The Deadprez bill requirement for continued Sac dollar production would be satisfied by the modified Sacs, which don't need an Eagle on the reverse; so we only get two more dollar series than we need, not three. :p

    The obverse will “contain the so-called `Sakakawea [Congressman Dorgan’s* spelling - not mine :D] design and the inscription `Liberty'. In order to perpetuate the incompetent minting procedure now being used: the coins will have an edge inscription of the year of minting and issuance of the coin and the inscriptions `E Pluribus Unum' and `In God We Trust'. (No mention of where the mint marks are to go.) :rolleyes:

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    *You don't know how much self control it took not to substitute a "k" for the "g" in the Congressman's name. ;)
     
  16. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member



    LOL! I love it.
     
  17. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    Apparently, yes.

    Sakakawea

    http://www.nd.gov/hist/Sakakawea.htm
    ". . . "Bird Woman," should be spelled "Tsakakawias" according to the foremost Hidatsa language authority, Dr. Washington Matthews. When this name is anglicized for easy pronunciation, it becomes Sakakawea, "Sakaka" meaning "bird" and "wea" meaning "woman." This is the spelling adopted by North Dakota. The spelling authorized for the use of Federal agencies by the United States Geographic Board is Sacagawea. Although not closely following Hidatsa spelling, the pronunciation is quite similar and the Geographic Board acknowledged the name to be a Hidatsa word meaning "Bird Woman." The spelling adopted by Wyoming and several western states has been "Sacajawea." This is a Shoshone word meaning "Boat Launcher" and while it has been widely used there is no historical justification for it. The use of this name merely perpetuates an unexplained spelling used by the editor of the Biddle text of the Lewis and Clark journals. It does not occur in the Original Journals."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea
    has plenty of controversy on the "correct" version of her name -- and it's meaning(s). With Sacagawea, Sakakawea, and Sacajawea.
     
  18. Scubasteve500

    Scubasteve500 Senior Member

    they are going WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overboard with all these new designs its making me angry
     
  19. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Whew! :Sighofrelief: I could see myself entombed by large, clunky Proof and Mint sets in 2009.
     
  20. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    goverment money scam

    they are screwing up big time with coinage there changeing everything around......ok go ahead change the rev................ BUT NO its a different design every year .... coinage is not commemratives ........ AND THE GOVERMENT NEEDS TO KNOW THAT COINS ARE NOT COMMEMRATIVES. i mean thay might as well take of date,mint mark, eplurbis unium and just put token on there...... keep coinage the same!!!!( i did like the state quarter program i think they should have ended it there ..... the pres,sac,nickle and preatty soon the penny they are really pushin the envolpe on this one lol
     
  21. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member




    here is the answer............ coin collecting = hoarding = goverment makes lots of money
     
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