new republican

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by chrsmat71, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    picked up a couple of new republican coins i thought i'd share.

    here's one of them, i know several of you also have one of this type!

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    L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi
    AR denarius
    90 BC
    o:head of apollo, F behind, R below right (or what is that? a bow?), all in circle of dots.
    r:galloping horseman with palm branch right, v above, L·PISOFRVGI below
    SYD 663v
    18x19 mm
    4.0g

    well, i've seen this coin type many types before. but until i picked this one up, i didn't notice how many varieties there were. how many variations of the right facing apollo coin and horse are there? it's pretty darn hard to look at pics of the type online and find two that are alike. anyone know why there are a a zillion different letters and symbols in the fields of good ol's mr. frugi's coins? lots of different styled apollos as well, some more crude, some very well done.

    post your frugis!
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2014
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    This is one of those coins I think someone could make a sub collection and maybe never have one of them all. Very nice pickup Chris.
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 2.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC AR Denarius OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo right, number LV behind REVERSE: Horseman galloping right, holding palm L PISO FRVGI below, ROMA monogram, number LXXII above
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    3.75g, 18.4mm
    Cr340/1, Calpurnia 12

    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC AR Denarius OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo r., behind, point control, front, check letter
    REVERSE: Horseman galloping towards r., holding a palm branch, above, symbol, and below Piso Frvgi / check letter
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    4.0g, 18mm
    Cr340/1, Sydenham 670d. Calpurnia 11
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    One I would like to have, see it often though. Nice addition.
     
  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice-looking new pickup, chrsmat. I still want one of these, but preferably the one with the horseman being chased by a scorpion.
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool coin, brother chrsmat ... very sweet addition

    Ummm, I don't have an exact match, but I do have a coin that is some relation to your new sweetie (30 years after your example) ...


    C. Piso L.f. Frugi AR Denarius
    61 BC
    Rome mint
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 3.73 grams
    Obverse: Head of Apollo right, hair bound with fillet; wreath behind
    Reverse: Horseman galloping right, holding whip


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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I believe every die was given a different number/letter/symbol and this was a huge issue so there are hundreds of them. I have to admit a preference for the ones with large Roman numerals. Banti shows one with octopus obverse and 146 (CXXXXVI) reverse but I do not know how many there are altogether. Mine is 77/94. Bing's 55/72 confirms the proportion of obverse to reverse dies (obverses lasted longer than reverses).
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  8. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    I just read the wiki stuff on the Frugi family or gens and I guess I dont get it exactly how coins were "regulated" in the early republic. Could any noble family or rich person just strike up some coins? Didn't the ruling elites have to make some choices or was it an open system?
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    JB, almost everything you could possibly want to know about Republican coinage can be found on Andrew McCabe's site here. Read his articles in particular - they are extremely informative.
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's my other new republican.

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    Mn. Cordius Rufus
    46 BC
    AR denarius
    Rome
    O: Conjoined heads of the Dioscuri right, each wearing diademed pileus surmounted by star
    R: Venus standing left, holding scales and scepter, Cupid at her shoulder. Crawford 463/1b. HCRI 63a. Sydenham 976a. Cordia 2b.
    18mm
    3.7g

    From The BVH Collection....anyone know what this means? Who or what this is? I've seen several coins for sale/sold that were listed as "from the BVH collection".

    Here's the auction the seller i got if from purchased it at himself. I payed more than he did.

    http://coins.ha.com/itm/ancients/ro...s-ca-46-bc-ar-denarius-362-gm-/a/3015-26018.s

    doug just posted one of these that he purchased a coin show, i picked this one up the day he posted his new coin. i had just purchased it a couple hours before, so DS didn't make me buy....this time.

    post your cordius rufus, dioscuri, or venus silvers!

    thanks to JA and bing for flying wingman for me on this one. :joyful:

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    Last edited: Nov 14, 2014
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Super coins, Chris, and everyone! Sigh...so many great coins, so little money.
     
  12. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Of those three I only have a coin with Venus, but she's not what I like best about this coin :D

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  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what is that vk?
     
  14. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Its a little hard to distinguish but the name on the reverse should fill you in ;)
     
  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhh...now i see it.

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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Julius_Caesar 2_opt.jpg
    JULIUS CAESAR AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Diademed head of Venus right.
    REVERSE: CAESAR - Aeneas advancing left, carrying Anchises and palladium.
    Carthage 47 to 46 BC
    4.0g, 17mm
    CRI 55, Sydenham 1013, RRC 458/1, S 1402

    BTW Chris, I love that Rufus Denarius. When you choose to get rid of it......
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice coins all
     
  18. Tarra1

    Tarra1 New Member

    My brother found in Western Ukraine one of the horseman galloping holding a palm branch con. Western Ukraine?? I wonder what brought that coin there?
     
  19. Tarra1

    Tarra1 New Member

    Found one in Ukraine. I mean Ukraine? I wonder what brought this coin there?
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Colonies of ancient Greece, Rome and the Byzantine Empire were founded in what is now modern day Ukraine beginning in the 6th century BC, on the northeastern shore of the Black Sea, and thrived well into the 6th century AD.
     
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  21. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    There are Roman denarii being dug in Ukraine all of the time.
     
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