New Julia Maesa

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    My latest ancient. Didnt need this as I have a great younger bust of her but it was WAY TOO CHEAP to let slip by and I figured why not have the mature bust too.:)

    It also has a cool die clash at 4,5,& 6 o clock on the reverse, the letters MAS show but the M doesnt show up well in the pic.

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    Julia Maesa ( 222 - 225 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: IVLIA MAESA AVG, draped bust right.
    P: PVDICITIA, Pudicitia seated left, drapery at neck in right, scepter in left.
    Rome
    3.3g
    18.5mm
    RIC IV 268, BMCRE V 76, Cohen 36
     
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  3. dougsmit

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  4. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    That is a really nice coin Mat.
     
  5. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Nice coin.

    I've frequently referred to this simple, but helpful chart when trying to keep the relationships among the Severan family (especially the Syrian princesses) clear in my mind:

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  6. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    ​Exceptiional Mat, great coin !!!
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I find it interesting that she has so many variations in portrait over such a small span of time. While there are 'younger' busts, remember that she was a grandmother of a teen when the first coins were made. Young coins would be early 50's and old early 60's.
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    Were you aware that she also has denarii from an Eastern mint as well as the Roman ones? These three are all Eastern but vary a bit between themselves as well. I find most interesting the Fecunditas reverse. Usually you think of this as more appropriate for a wife of the emperor than his grandmother.
     
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Here is my young bust for some who dont remember or are new.

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    @doug, I rarely ever see eastern mint of her. Just "discovered" them on another site a few months back but not for $200. And yes Fecunditas on Maesa is interesting.

    All three of yours are beauties. Lucky....

    Needless to say I need Fecunditas for lucilla & it's turning out to be the biggest pill to find available for my set but not surprised with what Curtis C. told me.
     
  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Sweet addition! Still broke, but I think when I get some cash, that I'll finally get some Severan ladies. I really like the younger portrait you posted.
     
  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    From our good buddy Stainless in a swap of a u.s. coin for it early last year. No regrets either ;D
     
  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice mature portrait of hers Mat, good catch
    For some reason however, I do prefer "younger" busts, such as this one :

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    Julia Maesa, Denarius
    Denarius struck in Rome in AD 218-220
    IVLIA MAESA AVG, Bust of Maesa right
    IVNO, Juno standing left holding patera and sceptre
    3.48 gr
    Ref : RCV #7750, Cohen #16

    Q
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I remember that coin, we had a head to head on forvm but I lost even though mine has full legends and not cut off like yours :(
     
  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Style and toning, maybe, came over the full legends :yes:

    Q
     
  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    :p ;)
     
  15. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I agree. Women on coins are great, but younger women on coins is better.
     
  16. Lord Geoff

    Lord Geoff Active Member

    I'm pretty much convinced I'm going to go for woman on coins. Are there pretty much only empresses or are there other women on coins as well? Obverse only I mean.
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nice one. I admit I am not too much into knowing who is who on the female roman coins.

    I agree with Q though, I would always choose a high style coin over a lesser style coin with full legends. This is assuming numismatists know what the legend is. I have a couple of coins we are unsure of the full legend, and I have coins that have a fragment of a legend otherwise unknown.
     
  18. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    When it comes to roman imperial, the majority is empresses but some emperors had their moms & even sisters placed on coins. Like the lady in this thread was grandmother to 2 emperors & is considered one of the most powerful roman woman in history.

    But there is some roman republic coins which feature women/goddesses on the obverse.

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    Greek coins in silver & bronze also feature women.
     
  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic


    Well to Cucumber's credit, his coin was in the "best of" gallery on Forvm much longer then the time I placed mine in it so it had many more votes to begin with :/
     
  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    You're right Mat. On the other hand, I do hope your Maesa didn't get any 0 rating, as mine has gotten, for, perhaps, having been for too long in the BOT gallery.
    Nobody knows how these things go, I bet.

    Q
     
  21. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Dunno, It was placed back into my gallery after contests end and since I didnt want 2 copies of the coin pic in my gallery I deleted it and kept the older one.
    Its all good though!
     
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