Hi there, new to these boards. Was wondering if anyone could help me figure out some sort of valuation on these coins below. New to coin collecting, so if additional info is needed to determine what they might be worth, just lmk! I appreciate any and all help...thanks for your time! P.S. if anyone knows of a good website to help me with these types of coins plmk, I have been unable to track a good site down yet!! Jim email: jim2tammy@hotmail.com
to CoinTalk jitatajo. The top coin looks like Y#127, an undated 26.7g, ~39mm, .900 fine silver Imperial Chinese Hupeh Provincal "Dollar", listed in the Standard Catalog of World Coins 19th Century 3rd Ed. as having been struck from 1895 to 1907, total mintage just under 20-million. Krause values it at $20 F, $30 VF, $50 XF and $250 Unc. Krause tends to be a little high on the lower grades and a little low on the higher grades for these issues. The Shanghai Tael has an interesting back story. They were minted in Hong Kong in 1867 as a proposed Chinese trade coin, but at that time the Imperial government shwed no interest in using struck coinage instead of its traditional cast cash coins, and according to Krause, the scheme was dropped. Unfortunately, the chances of yours being genuine are slim, fat and none. It's Pn3 in Krause, and listed as rare, with a notation that one offered by a major auction house sold for $60,375 in May, 1995. Krause does not give a fineness of the silver, or a weight for the Shangai Tael patterns. The picture of Pn3 is 36.5mm wide. With far more fakes than real 19th Century silver crowns being pumped out of China these days, there's a more than 50-50 chance that your Hupeh coin is also a fake. Check the diameter and weight. Many, but far from all, the current Chinese forgeries are significantly underweight. I used to know a couple of excellent websites about Chinese coins, but the links to both of them are broken, so apparently they have gone down since the last time I looked at them.
Thank you sir!! I do appreciate the thoroughness of your response as well as the value of your time...If I may inquire one more question. Which value guide do you refer to...you mentioned Krause....and if so, do you know how I may attain one? thanks again, Jim
Welcome!!! He's refering to the Standard Catalog of World Coins by Krause and Mishler. You should be able to purchase one at your local coin store or any online coin supply store. It's a must have if you collect Darkside (world coins).
The Krause book isn't cheap either....I think $45-$55....so if I were you (that is if you aren't big on collecting world coins) I would go and read it while I was there and not buy it Speedy
If you have the right connections,you can sometimes find good deals on "previously owned" editions of Krause..hehehe..