New discovery, no lower jaw. Just got back from James Wiles of Coneca.

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  1. ohsonice

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Can we see some type of attribution notice from James Wiles?

    BTW.. You can clearly see the Lower Jaw (Mandible)
    What is missing is the Maxilla or the area above the jaw o_O
     
  4. ohsonice

    ohsonice New Member

    He actually said lower jaw has been abraded away.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It called an Over Polished Die issue.
    Looks neat and I have seen a few examples of that Cent.
    But that is still a visible Mandible. That is the lower jaw.
    He made a mistake then.
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    The man is a numismatist, NOT at doctor! :p
     
  7. alurid

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  8. alurid

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    I seems to me that only part of the Mandibile has been abraded away.
    The Alveolar Process and Sublingual Fossa down to the Mylohyoid Line seem to be missing, but the Mental Protuberance up to and including the Mental Foramen seem to be intact. The bottom lip is missing, the top lip seem to be in place.
     
  9. ohsonice

    ohsonice New Member

    Yes I agree.
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I think he forgot to put his teeth in.....most probably still in a glass of water in the bath room.
    Sweet find.
     
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  11. Sidney Osborne

    Sidney Osborne Well-Known Member

    When you went to the movies you could get raisinettes, lemonheads,...
    and maybe jawbreakers... looks like a case of "tongue in cheek"...
    The dies ate up his new set of teeth...weak polident...
     
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  13. ohsonice

    ohsonice New Member

    Awesome reply! Thanks
     
  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    This is caused by over abrading the die.

    From Error-ref.com..
    What's the difference? Really I want to know
     
  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    So you did a autopsy on poor ole Lincoln . In your other post you said it has nothing to do with a die being over polished and in this post you mention it has been abraided away. Abraided is a term used to describe a ground and polished die. The most common reason the dies are abraided is to remove die clash marks. The deeper the clash marks is determines how much of the die that has to be abraided away. I absolutely love the awesome 2005P bison nickels that have the super wide detached leg bison's. I also have a few of the coins with the strong clashed die marks before the dies were abraided. So the mint workers created another nice variety by heavily abraiding this die pair.
     
  16. expat

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    Was it @Insider who said a more accurate description is die cleaning? So as not to be confused with polishing which is done before striking proofs.
     
  17. Insider

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    Nope.
     
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  18. expat

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    Sorry, read it recently on here or Vamworld
     
  19. alurid

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  20. rascal

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    Yes I agree Abrading and polishing are opposite actions but if a die is abraided it then needs to be polished. Most of the time the polishing will still leave some abraided marks.
     
  21. ohsonice

    ohsonice New Member

    I thought it had been over polish also. Thanks
     
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