New discovery error ?

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  1. Januss

    Januss New Member

    Hi all Newbie here , I would like some input/value on this error/variety Lincoln cent which I cannot find anywhere on the internet or in guide books...Help please ? Thank you ! IMG_9852.JPG IMG_9854.JPG IMG_9849.JPG IMG_9851.JPG
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hi.. welcome to CoinTalk

    What you have is called a Non Error

    Your Cent is PMD - Post Mint Damage not a Discovery error.
    It was altered intentionally. Another coin was pressed against it to leave those mark maybe using a table vice. It's a squeeze job. Whenever you see anything incused and backwards into a coin this is what is happening :yack:

    I want to share this webpage with you - http://www.error-ref.com/squeeze-job-or-vice-job-or-garage-job/

    Peace :angelic:
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2017
  4. coincollector197

    coincollector197 ANA Platinum member since 12/9/15

    That is called a vise job. All PMD.
     
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  5. Januss

    Januss New Member

    Hi and thank you for your insight. Yes it sounds plausible and even looks exactly like the one one on the site you linked but if you look at the reverse it is raised up not pressed in and appears to be Lincolns head . So my question is if it were put in a vise how could it be raised not depressed in like the obverse ?
     
  6. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

    A vise isn't the only way to create something like this. Your coin was most likely placed on a more pliable surface, another coin or something similar placed on top of it then struck with a hammer. In the case of your coin , more than once. This type of scenario would create a bulge on the reverse.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, welcome to the neighborhood!

    What you see on the reverse is not an impression of Lincoln's head. It has been squashed from the pressure, and what you see is merely the outline of the coin used to damage it.

    Remember, coins are struck in "coin turn". So, where the damage begins on the rim near 1 o'clock on the obverse corresponds to 5 o'clock on the reverse. You can see clearly that the "N" of CENT is where the damage begins.

    Chris
     
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  8. Januss

    Januss New Member

    I see.... I thought I found a good one in my change as I do look for stuff like this all the time. So onward and upward I will keep looking ! Thanks again for everyone's help here.
    J
     
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  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Welcome, @Januss. I like your attitude as you sought answers to your find! Come back often.
    Steve
     
  10. Januss

    Januss New Member

    Here are a few others that i would like some info on if possible and value if any ? 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg
     
  11. Januss

    Januss New Member

    I call the last picture of the 1999 "Goatee Lincoln" Lol
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The 1919 was once part of a lucky cent holder. It's damaged and has little value.
     
  13. Januss

    Januss New Member

    Thanks
     
  14. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I bought a good book on error coins that had sections on the minting process and what can go wrong.

    If I can't explain what happened to the coin during the minting process, I usually have a coin damaged outside of the mint.
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The 198 Lincoln looks like filled dies on both sides. I don't know.
     
  16. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

    Looking at the quarter; it has an obvious bulge on the obverse though no coresponding damage on the reverse. If you tske into account the damaged surface texture of the coin , this means post strike dsmage . Heating a clad coin will give this result.
    The second coin was struck by dies that were clogged. This is normally by a mixture of grease and dust and metal shavings ... etc. A weak strike could look similar but would have unformed rims . This coins rims are fully formed.
    The third coin as already stated was encased. The look of the rims is a dead giveaway.
    The dorth coin could be a die chip but also a plating blister. The two lobes of the anomaly lend credence to a chip though I can't be sure.
     
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