New Diocletian addition

This coin arrived this morning.. purchased from @Valentinian . The coin took its sweet time in the post (as expected) but landed safe and sound.



At 29mm and 9.25g the coin feels great and looks great in hand. I am really very excited to add this coin to my collection.

My photography skills are terrible. I have trouble getting the detail paired with the depth of color so I thought I would take a queue from @Justin Lee 's recent effort
and made a little .GIF on my phone.

Actually was very easy to do and turned out pretty well for a first effort (although there is room to improve).



Thanks for looking..

Please post any coins of Diocletian that you would like to share

 

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A fine example @Clavdivs
DIOCLETIAN
AE27 Silvered Follis
OBVERSE: IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right
REVERSE: GENIO POPV-L-IROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera & cornucopia, HTA in ex.
Struck at Heraclea, 296-297 AD
9.3g, 27mm
RIC VI 19a

 

Nice. More and more folks on facebook are posting these "films" of their coins rather than static images. Of course, you can upload mpeg files from your phone directly to FB and present them. I believe here (as you did) it would have to be an animated gif format. Or I suppose you could upload it to youtube and then paste in the URL using the media button.

 

Yes - I have seen more and more of them. I recorded the video on my phone, edited it with the free iMovie App on my phone. I needed that as I kept screwing up the transition from Obverse to Reverse (nearly dropping the coin every time )- so was able to edit that out, add transitions, easily add the text, etc. It's pretty slick for a free App.

This site will convert the .MP4 file to a .GIF file quickly in your browser:
https://convertio.co/video-converter/?utm_source=chrome_extension

.GIFs are large files however.. I had to shorten the video to be able to post here - so your idea of uploading to YouTube and pasting the URL may be the way to go.

Any other ideas or shortcuts are welcome.

 

That's great, @Clavdivs! Wonderful new coin! Yea, I was tempted to go the YouTube route, but I thought I'd try GIF. I had downloaded an app (Andriod), GIF Maker-Editor and tried that out for mine. I've been wanting for the past year or so of making video based content on YouTube, but haven't had the time... maybe with this pandemic it will be something to try in the next month or so. Who knows.

But, really, that is a really nice coin and nice moving pictures you created! Nice work!

 

Here is one from Antioch. Like your example and @Bing 's one, we can see the liquid flowing from the Patera.
Diocletian Ae Follis
26mm 9.29g. 12h
IMP C DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG / GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI
ANT K-V-Gamma in field
300-301 AD RIC VI Antioch 54a

 

That's an outstanding example, @Clavdivs ! Here are a couple of Diocletian folles I recently acquired:

Diocletian, AD 284-305.
Roman billon follis, 10.80 g, 23.6 mm, 7 h.
Rome, AD 302-305.
Obv: IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, Laureate head, right.
Rev: SACRA MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS NN, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae; star in right field, R P in exergue.
Refs: RIC vi, p. 362, 103a; Cohen 434; RCV 12815.


Diocletian, AD 284-305.
Roman billon follis, 8.99 g, 28.3 mm, 6 h.
Trier, AD 302-303.
Obv: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG, Laureate and cuirassed bust, right.
Rev: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI, Genius, turreted, nude but for chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, holding patera in right hand and cornucopiae in left hand; S/F//IITR.
Refs: RIC vi, p. 196, 524a; RCV --.
Notes: Some have suggested the S F in the fields is an abbreviation for SAECVLI FELICITAS.

 

Beautiful capture @Clavdivs ! And, nice video.

Oh, we ran your prints through the US and Interpol databases. Cops will be there shortly...

Uh, wait, I have been binge-watching NCIS this eve...

Now THAT's purdy cool. Not really seen that.


Here is one of my Diocletian

RI Diocletian
Ӕ Quinarius 1.46g 16mm
CE 284-305
IOVI CONSERVAT AVGG,
Rome, 285.
Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust r. R/
Jupiter standing facing, head r., holding sceptre and thunderbolt; eagle at feet.
RIC V 193. Rare.

 

Yes - I am not really a fan of photos (or videos) with the coin actually in hand.
I tried a few other methods but can't seem to beat being able to move the coin in the light by hand .. I am open to any ideas on that.
Perhaps a Michael Jackson glove would be more appealing?

I just tried out a new video method - this time using YouTube.
Adobe Spark is a free video creation program that works in your browser.. very easy to use.

I've also found:

-my hand shakes more than I thought.. at times I am moving the coin to catch the light. Other times not..
-I feel pretty silly doing this out in the garden
-my wife and daughters think I have lost it completely.

But I do think this method has a lot of potential for quick videos to really see the coin as it is....
Spark also allows you to add audio and music if you like. If I added that it would probably be mistaken for a Monty Python production.

 

Great coins all, I have a few not so great:





Got a few small follis ofwhich this one is the smallest:

 

Nice coins and I really like that map. I will save that - thank you!

 

this is really something - clever, never seen that before

have one from Siscia, officina A, a different officina than the one shown by @Andres2, struck in the first year after the currency reform; the style is not as abstract as coins struck in the following years, but one can notice a thickening of the neck.

Æ Follis, Pannonia Superior, Siscia, 295 AD
25 mm, 8.175 g
RIC VI Siscia 85a; SR 3534v (4th ed);


Ob.: IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG laureate head of Diocletianus to r.
Rev.: GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI Genius nude, modius on head, standing to l. with chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera in r. hand and cornucopiae in l.; mint mark *SIS in exergue and A in right field.

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and an Antoninianus struck before the currency reform. A common reverse design was Jupiter sitting or standing, holding a Victory and hasta:

Antioch, 285 AD Mint Mark: A//XXI (1st Officina, A is Antioch mint)

20 x 22 mm, 4.597 g
RIC V Diocletian 325

Ob.: IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG Bust of Diocletian, radiate, draped, cuirassed, to r.
Rev.: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG Diocletian, draped, cuirassed, standing to r., holding parazonium in r. hand and receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter; Jupiter, standing to l., holding long scepter; A//XXI

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Here are my two Diocletians. The first one is very much like several others above (except that it's from Nicomedia), and also shows liquid flowing from the patera -- as well as inside the patera itself.


Diocletian, silvered AE Follis, 294-295 AD, Nicomedia Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG/ Rev. Genius standing left, pouring out patera & holding cornucopiae, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, mintmark SMN (Nicomedia). RIC VI 27a p. 556), Sear RCV IV 12788, ERIC II 539, Cohen 106. 27.8 mm., 8.6 g.





Diocletian, silvered AE Antoninianus, 293-294 AD, Antioch Mint (7th Officina). Obv. Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right, IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG / Rev. Jupiter stdg. left, holding scepter, presents Victory on globe to Diocletian, CONCORDIA MILITVM; Z in lower middle field (= 7th officina of Antioch mint), XXI in exergue. RIC VI 322 (p. 256), Sear RCV IV 12637, Cohen 34. 20.87 mm., 4.75 g. (Apologies for the blurry photos -- they're from a scanned printout of the seller's photos, which for some reason I didn't save directly from the Internet when I bought the coin a few years ago, and I haven't photographed the coin myself yet.)

[Blurry photos deleted -- see the new photos I posted below.]

 

DIOCLETIAN


RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX

 

From the pre-reform I-O-BI set:


From the issue in his name by Carausius:


A post reform follis marked with the alloy XXI from Alexandria:


DN DIOCLETIANO BAEATISS - retired but not marked Senior:

DN DIOCLETIANO FELICISS - Post Retirement Fraction

 

Here are a couple of photos I just took of my Diocletian antoninianus. I think both (especially the reverse photo) are a little less blurry than the copies I posted above of the seller's photos.

Diocletian, silvered AE Antoninianus, 293-294 AD, Antioch Mint (7th Officina). Obv. Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right, IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG / Rev. Jupiter stdg. left, holding scepter, presents Victory on globe to Diocletian, CONCORDIA MILITVM; Z in lower middle field (= 7th officina of Antioch mint), XXI in exergue. RIC VI 322 (p. 256), Sear RCV IV 12637, Cohen 34. 20.87 mm., 4.75 g.

 

I have only one Diocletian but mine has lots of silvering left on it which makes it very lustrous

 

Diocletian follis , Trier mint (PTR) c303-305AD. Nicely retaining its silver wash coating still

 

DIOCLETIAN
Antoninianus
OBVERSE: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
REVERSE: IOVI CONSER AVGG, Jupiter naked,standing facing, looking right,holding thunderbolt & sceptre eagle at foot with wreath in beak, XXIA in ex.
Struck at Rome 292 AD
2.9g, 21.5mm
RIC V Part II 166

 

from an older post --

The GENIO type is a common reverse and was issued by the Tetrarchic emperors for over a decade, but the seemingly peaceful scene depicted on the reverse was very contentious for many people in the years A.D. 303- 311.

During this period, Christians were persecuted and many were killed because of what was depicted on the reverse. The design was modeled after a statue of the Spirit of the Roman People (GENIO POPVLI ROMANI) which used to stand in the Roman forum. The reverse on the coin below depicts Genius holding a patera and pouring a libation over an altar (sometimes depicted on coins).

Diocletian feared that Christians were weakening the Empire and in A.D. 303 declared that everyone must perform public sacrifices to demonstrate their loyalty to the Emperor and Rome. This was really just a conservative move to reaffirm traditional civic virtues. The act depicted on the reverse of the GENIO coin was one that Roman citizens were expected to perform; but many Christians refused and were martyred. The persecution was firmly enforced in the Eastern Empire, less so in the West. The persecution officially ended in A.D. 311 though A.D. 313 is traditionally referenced due to the Edict of Milan.

Something to think about the next time that you see a common GENIO coin.



Diocletian
A.D. 294
27x29mm 9.5gm
IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right.
GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae, across fields S/Γ.
RIC VI Siscia 79a