Need help with identificaton

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  1. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Hello,

    I acquired this out of the 12 coins (I posted before)
    And i think this is provincial coin and on the obverse I see "LYCAND":
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    Any help would be appreciated!


    Thanks,
    Thomas
     
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  3. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Trying to find out. It is probably a provincial coin as you surmise.
     
  5. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Any idea what emperor it is?
     
  6. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    I suspect that you are having a fourrée denarius with most of the silver plating gone. Though I can't identify the exact emperor, I'd assume it's Nerva-Antonine or Severan dynasty. Maybe someone else can help?

    Here is a slightly similar fourrée for comparison:
    Rom – Septimius Severus, denar, fourree, Victoria.png
    Septimius Severus, Roman Empire, fourrée denarius, 198–202 AD, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, head of Septimius Severus, laureate, r. Rev: VICTORIAE [AVGG FEL], Victory flying l., holding wreath, shield to l. 17mm, 2.2g. Ref: RIC IV.1 144b (prototype).
     
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  7. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    iam think about, Geta of Caracalla:)
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I agree it is likely a plated coin from that period (Severan dynasty) where the silver has worn off.
     
  9. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Do you know any books or websites, I can used to identify provincials?
     
  10. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    Wildwinds.com has provincials. You need to look in the Greek section.
     
  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Wayne G. Sayles book Ancient Coin Collecting IV: Roman Provincial Coins (v. 4) was pretty helpful to me. My local library has it, and I've checked it out a few times.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Coin-Collecting-IV-Provincial/dp/0873415523

    Online you might try Roman Provincial Coinage online - I find it a little tricky to use, but the information found there (if you can find it) is quite impressive:

    https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/


    For what it's worth, I agree with the others who believe the OP is an Imperial fourree, not a Roman Provincial coin. Here is one of Septimius Severus:

    Sept Severus - Fourree den Bath Eng June 2018 (0).jpg
     
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  12. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Maybe Severus Alexander.
     
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  13. looks like a clump of molten silver was dropped in some dirt
     
  14. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    Definitely Caracalla. Reads “S PIV” behind the head which is part of ANTONINVS PIVS, that and the short beard can be no one else. Reverse is an advancing figure of some sort, perhaps Mars, perhaps someone else. 4C1BF112-1E01-4643-B731-4D5BD694EFE7.jpeg
    Barry Murphy
     
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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking a figure with a raised right arm, perhaps Serapis:

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  16. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    Can’t tell if that’s an actual arm or just a trace of silver that makes it look like an arm. The legend break with PIVS behind the head limits the options to a few years.

    Barry Murphy
     
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  17. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Should I use electrolysis? I don't think the few chunks of silver matter.
     
  18. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    To me, the "chunks of silver" are the only thing worthwhile on that coin. They tell a story about the coin.
     
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  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Why not leave it? I doubt there is much value to begin with. It's a pretty neat example of plating wearing off, which is a very interesting historical piece to begin with.
     
  20. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    As one who often--and controversially--recommends electrolysis in extreme circumstances, I have to agree that in this case using electrolysis on this coin would destroy any remaining interest in it. It will remove any remaining silver and with it, most of the remaining detail.
     
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  21. shanxi

    shanxi Well-Known Member

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