Need help with figuring out Overton numbers on Capped Bust Half's

Hello everyone,

Where could I find something on the internet on overton numbers to match the toning on my coins. Here is one of the coin. Thanks for the help!!
Aaron

 

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From a real quick check it looks like O-111

 

Where would I go to check myself?

 

Well you could buy the books, or you might be able to check out online a few very extensive collections that have sold at auction. You might try the Reiver collection that was sold by Heritage or the Russel Logan collection. I don't remember who sold Logans set. Those sets have many or most of the varieties but not all of them. If you don't want to buy the book you might try borrowing it through an interlibrary loan.

I don't remember which forum it's on but one of them has a series of threads that show pictures of most of the varieties. I think it may be on the NGC forum.

 

Ok, Thanks! What do you think about this one? I look at the Reiver Collection on Heritage website and it look O-105. Take a look.

 

man heyatrain nice coin pic posted!

 

Thanks! Any Idea on the Overton Number?

 

Here another one............

 

This is probably the threads Conder101 talked about. It's 4 years old and some of the images are gone but I still find it helpful sometimes.
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=549074&highlight_key=y&keyword1=bust

 

sweet, heyatrain

 

Excellent coins

 

I'm thinking O-113a. Nice coin.

 

Thanks Guys!! Idhair, Thanks for the help & link. I will check it out.

 

Here's another one for your guy's opinions...

 

You can also try coinzip also. The key is knowing what to match up - like the I in pluribus to the T in states. They have very good bust halves section.

 

On the 1827 I agree with Idhair O-113a. I believe the 1828 is O-117. I'm having problems with the 1819 though. I can't get it to match up to anything. It should be easy because it has some very distinctive features. The obv appears to be an 1819/8. There are five overdate obv listedfor this year. Three of them have block 8's and two have fancy 8's (and these two dies are the ONLY fancy 8 dies for this year.). Yours is a fancy 8. That should make it obv 1 or obv 3. On obv 1 star 7 points at the upper half of the curl by the headband. On obv 3 it points ot the junction of the two curls by the head band. Yours seems to point at the front of the lower curl like Obv 2. But obv 2 has a block 8.

Then there is the rev. Your coin has a tall slender 5 in 50. There are only three reverse with that style of 5, rev A, B, & C. On rev A & B the 5 leans heavily right like on your coin, and on C it is upright. On A the I in PLURIBUS is almost centered under the T. That doesn't match yours at all. That just leaves B. On B the I is below the right serif of the A. Yours isn't that far left. On yours it is under the left serif of the T. (As seen on Rev C! But on rev C the tip of the arrow feathers is over the upright of the 5. On yours it is definitely left of the upright.) So your rev most closely matches B, but B does not come paired with a fancy 8 obv.

Can anyone else confirm my observations?

 

I gave up on the 1819. Can't figure it out.

 

Thanks for your help Idhair & conder101. I really appriciate it!

 

Well two of us have now failed on the 1819 and I believe both of us are fairly experienced at variety attributions. This makes this a very interesting piece. They do discover new varieties from time to time.

Idhair, I'm using the third edition of Overton (1990) to try and attribute it. What are you using? I ask just in case there is an error in the book. And are you seeing the same things I am?

 

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