Need help with coin and medal identification

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Drusus, May 18, 2007.

  1. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Sadly my grandmother passed away recently, I went to see her off as a pallbearer. I just got back a few days ago from Chatanooga where she lived and most of my family is from. It seems as though my grandfather had some early american coins, british, italian and some german I could easily ID but there were some medals and coins I could not ID...

    this is the first one I have uploaded and have been unable to ID...it is a very large medal...any info or references would be of great help...

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  3. Bonedigger

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  4. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Drusus,there's another translator at Babelfish.My command of the German language is extremely limited.

    Aidan.
     
  5. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    thanks bonedigger...she was a, in my humble opinion...one of the greatest women to have ever lived...

    So I guess the medal is some how associated with this jewish school...since the last date is 1904, it must have been from a time when it had roughly 900 students consisting of a preparatory school, a six form high school (which seems to be from 5/7-10 grade and a Madchenschule (finishing school?)

    Very interesting. Thanks for the link...
     
  6. Daggarjon

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    My condolences to you an your family. my wife is German ...
    obverse: "The Children of the Time of Sowing..."
    Reverse:
    100 year celebration (or the Centenial)
    of
    School of Philanthropy at Frankfurt (the school from bones post)
    1804-1904

    Bottom near rim: "For Elightenment and Humanity" (possibly the Moto of the school?)

    :)
     
  7. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    the front says: the youth is the time of the seed

    back says: century celebration of the Philanthropins [aufkiarung und humanitat]
     
  8. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    ah...thanks daggarjon...guess this is a commorative medal for the 100th year of this school...interesting...
     
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    my wife has her German dictionary out and is still trying to decipher .. but a single word has so many different ways it could mean :)

    to me, she is just spitting all over the place saying funny words :D :D
     
  10. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Okay...here is the next one

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    It seema like its silver and its very large. On the reverse it says:

    Civitas Aurelia Aquensis - This is the Roman name for a german settlement, modern day Baden-Baden, a town in Baden-Württemberg, Germany. It is located on the western foothills of the Black Forest, on the banks of the Oos river. The name was given to it by Alexander Severus it seems.

    The town was named Baden in the Middle Ages. From the 14th century down to the end of the 17th, it was known Baden as it was the residence of the margraves of Baden, to whom it gave its name. In 1931, the town of Baden-Baden was officially given its double name (a short form for "Baden in Baden", Baden in the state of Baden).



    MDCCC - LVIII / LXXXIII: 1800 58 / 83

    my question regarding this medal is concerning the portrait and the roman numerals...I am assuming it reads MDCCC but am I mistaken in thinking the first C looks more like a G?

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    Is this Grande Duke Frederick I of Baden and his wife Princess Louise of Prussia?

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    If those are dates 1858 through 1883 that would be within is time...not sure.
     
  11. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    It does look like the Roman numerals for 1853.It is a pity that there is not a date converter for these Roman numeral dates,but there is the number chart near the front of the Krause catalogue.

    Aidan.
     
  12. Daggarjon

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  13. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Yeah...I know roman numerals and got them right...my problem is that the first C looks more like a G...I can assume that it IS a C...if so...I am assuming it is within the time of the Grande Duke Frederick I...and that is a protrait of him and his wife...thing is...those dates are not the dates of his actual rule...I am wondering what the dates signify...
     
  14. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Drusus,it is a bit of metal that has been caught in the die.

    Aidan.
     
  15. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    what Aidan says is possible, i dont know of any G roman numeral ....
     
  16. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    yeah...there is no G roman numeral so I assume its a C...I just need to know what the dates mean...guess I will have to keep looking...just wondering what the medal is commemorating.
     
  17. craig a

    craig a Coin Hoarder

    The 1st one roughly reads ''adolesence is the time to grow or a time of growing, i.e.; learning... probably a token to help build that learning center
     
  18. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    okay, here is another I am having a bit of trouble translating. My wife speaks german but she is away right now so I am having trouble...

    here is the medal...again...rather large bronze. I didnt get the best of photos but I think I have the inscription down...if you would like to have zoomed in images of them, I can do that...

    This is probably a medal commemorating the 100th year anniversary of the battle of nations 1813-1913 (what the memorial was built to commemorate...preussias and other allied nations defeat of france in 1813.)

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    Obverse: deutscher patriotenbund (German Patriot Federation)
    volkerschlacht denkmal bei leipzig 1913 (peoples war monument in leipzig)


    Reverse: Der Herr ist der rechte Kriegsmann, Herr ist sein Name 1813 (The Lord is the right man of war, Lord is his name)


    Now I know that the memorial is the Voelkenschlachtdenkmal: among the world's most massive war memorials that also has a history of German nationalism and pride. Commemorating the 1813 defeat of Napoleon by the Prussians and allies, this memorial was also the site of one of Hitler's early Nazi rallies. The rotunda interior sports massive sculptures of barbarian warriors with their heads bowed toward a memorial in the center.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkerschlachtdenkmal

    I assume the warrior looking guy is either one of the warriors depicted on the memorial orarchangel Michael


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    any help with translation or a reference to another example would be great.
     
  19. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ben,the statue is depicted on the reverse.Your translation of the reverse inscriptions are generally correct,but Christian can confirm this.

    Aidan.
     
  20. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Okay, I dont need ID help for these, just posting to show some of the other in the box...I will probably have a few more medals in a bit I will need help with.

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    My mother and most of my family is from Chatanooga Tenn and Rossville Georgia (right across the border)...these Irradiated Dimes are from the Oakridge Museum of Atomic Energy which is very close to where they lived...quick little write up on what these are if you havent seen one...

    Back in the days of atomic ignorance, radiation and atomic energy were portrayed as harmless and fun. Those were the days when shoe stores had an x-ray machine called a Fluoroscope equipped with viewers so that you could see how the shoes fit your feet. Those were gone when it was discovered that these devices, cute as they were, were toasting little kids.

    The encased irradiated dimes were another example of "radiation fun", though these are not dangerous to people, they are collectors items and are mildly dangerous to your wallet if you decide you want to collect them.

    http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/medalsmementoes/dimes.htm

    "One of the most popular exhibits in the American Museum of Atomic Energy is a "dime irradiator." To date, more than 250,000 dimes have been irradiated, encased in plastic and returned to their owners as souvenirs. The irradiator works as follows: A mixture of radioactive antimony and beryllium is enclosed in a lead container. Gamma rays from the antimony are absorbed by the beryllium atoms and a neutron is expelled by the beryllium atom in the process.

    These neutrons, having no electrical charge, penetrate silver atoms in the dime. Instead of remaining normal silver-109, they become radioactive silver-110. After irradiation, the dime is dropped out through a slot in the lead container and rests momentarily before a Geiger tube so that its radioactivity may be demonstrated. It is then encased in the souvenir container. Radioactive silver, with a half-life of 22 seconds, decays rapidly to cadmium-110 (In 22 seconds, half of the radioactivity in each dime is gone, in another 22 seconds half the remainder goes, and so on until all the silver-110 has become cadmium). Only an exceedingly minute fraction of the silver atoms have been made radioactive."

    my grandfather died early of cancer...hmmmm...:)
     
  21. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    This was of interest to me as a Notgeld collector...he had several notgeld coins, this is one of them from the Westfalen series of which I have several examples already with Von Stein portrait:

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