Need Help Identifying This Saudi Coin

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  1. libertycandg

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  3. libertycandg

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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    found it. Saudi Arabia Krause# KM#36 trade coinage, DENOMINATION- Guinea
    7.9881 g. weight, .917 gold content, date AH1370(1950) mintage 2,000,000 values xf-BV, UNC-$425, bu-$450
    there is another date AH1377(1957) same looking coin KM#43 mintage- 1,579,000 same values. I am not sure what date your coin is ???
     
  5. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    What is the diameter and weight of the original coin?

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  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    since there is only 1 pic of your coin in the Krause catalog and that pic of your coin looks like it has a different date on it.... so I am guessing your coin is the second coin listed without a picture but under the same Guinea denomination date Ah1377(1957)
     
  7. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    Looks like AH1354 & a 1/2 between the palm trees....
     
  8. libertycandg

    libertycandg New Member

    Both the coins you mentioned are whole Guineas. This coin has to be a half because the weight is exactly half of what a Guinea is supposed to weigh. We haven't had any trouble finding the Guinea, but we can't find any mention of a half guinea anywhere.
     
  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    opps my bad. sorry no more info in my books.
     
  10. jj00

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  11. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    could jjOO be right a gold plated silver coin ? sounds possible. it's all about the weight of the coin and diameter. what is the weight and diameter of your coin ?
     
  12. libertycandg

    libertycandg New Member

    We thought it might be a gold plated silver riyal as well, but after running tests, we have determined that it is gold in the same proportion as the whole Guinea. The coin weighs 3.938 grams with a diameter of 19mm.
     
  13. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    it looks like the pic for a 1/2 riyal KM#17. but you said the gram weight is smaller. your coin could be a pattern coin but all the paterns I see for half guinea are silver. a mystery for sure. could it be a gold plated pattern coin ??? not knowing is driving me crazy... in a good way but still baffiled.
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    just an observation your coin dates look like the same date in the half riyal KM#17 AH1354(1935) and the pattern coins dates look like AH1373-1370 so i am guessing it is not a patern. hmmm
     
  15. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    you might have a very rare coin here. the silver half riyal is 25mm so cross that off the possiblities. ugh. I have also looked in my 17th,18th and 19TH century krause catlogs and found nothing there either ugh.
     
  16. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The coin is dated 1354 AH. ( 1935 AD ). Denomination is Half Guinea.It is of Trade Coinage. If it is genuine, it could be a very rare pattern. I guess so ..
    Charles
     
  17. libertycandg

    libertycandg New Member

    The first picture, (the obverse?) has been polished as if it has been worn as jewelry, but the coin clearly looks struck and not cast. There are no casting marks around the edge, and all the devices look sharp and struck. Do you guys think that NGC or PCGS would know what this is? Is it worth it to send it off for grading?
     
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    spirityoda Coin Junky

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