Need A Little PCGS Advice

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by NICK66, Mar 10, 2007.

  1. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    Okay, I had sent in 5 silver reverse proofs for grading. I got them back, and upon further inspection, it looks like they might have splashed something on one of them. It looks like small brown specks of something got on this coin. Now these specks are dark brown in the middle, then they get lighter as they go out. To me it looks like splash marks from something, I don't know how else to explain it. I can't get good pictures with my crappy camera, sorry. Any ideas or advice as to what I should do? Thanks.
     
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  3. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector

    That does not sound good !

    You think maybe they could have been drinking coffee or something while grading. Here is a scary one it's not your coin.:secret:
     
  4. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    Well, I can tell they are mine due to some reverse rotation. :hatch:
     
  5. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector

    I guess that leaves the coffee which really sucks
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Write or call them.
    Did you have them remove the coins from the original capsules? Then they may agree that it is their fault.
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    sounds like a carbon spot----more than likely they wouldn't do anything....
    Why not post a photo and maybe we can be of more help!

    Speedy
     
  8. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    This really stinks. You must be livid.

    What grade did they award this coin? What did they award all of them. GOT pics?

    I would love to know what the out come of this will be. I hope they do you right.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If I were you I would get ready to chalk it all up to experience and forget about it. There have been countless reports similar to yours - spots on coins, food on coins, fingerprints on coins, hair on coins etc etc. And to the best of my knowledge, nothing has ever been done by the company about a single coin.
     
  10. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    They we're all 69's. Like GDJMSP says, there is nothing they will do most likely. I'll see what I can do as far as pictures go, but my camera is older.
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Sad, but true. I submitted 3 $50 gold Buffaloes to PCGS. Since most are PR69 DCAM, I looked them over VERY carefully before sending them in, trying to guess my chances of having some 70s (which command a premium). On two, I honestly found nothing; they seemed perfect. On one of them, I thought I saw a very small lint spec, which should knock it down to 69.

    Well, I got them back from PCGS. One did grade 70, the other two 69. I again looked very closely at the 69s. To the naked eye, they looked good. But under a 16x loupe, there was VERY conspicuous "damage" on the obverse rim, between 4 o'clock and 6 o'clock.

    Maybe I missed hat the first time, but how ? It jumped out at me the second time. I think they messed it up when they pulled it out of the mint capsule. Interesting that the damage was very similar.

    I contacted them with detailed photos, but no deal.

    Like GDJMSP said, I'm chalking it up to experience. No hard feelings, but a lesson learned.
     
  12. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    Here are some photos, this is the best I can do it looks like.

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    There is a speck on her cape also, and under the letter "T".
     
  13. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    Okay, here's a good one:

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  14. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I dunno, could be mositure from breathing
     
  15. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    I've seen video footage of grading at PCGS, I believe, and they're handling (grading) coins with their bare hands. "Secrets of the US Mint" was the documentary.

    People are human and make mistakes. They are also conditioned to deny that they have made a mistake.

    Grading services, in general :pencil: :desk: :headbang: :hail:
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'd be steamed, Nick. This is ignernt. Plum ignernt.
     
  17. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    Do you think if I cracked it out and used a little acetone on the spots, would that hurt it?
     
  18. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    Even though the coin is now "damaged" I would be VERY HESITANT to do anything else to it, even in an attempt to improve it. You could very quickly worsen your situation and there is no going back...
     
  19. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Nick, I am 99.99% certain that the spots on your coins are milk spots caused my the mint rinse, and not by PCGS. They may not have been there before you sent them to PCGS. For some reason or other they have a tendancy to develop at random. Silver dip will not remove them, nor will acetone, xylol, alcohol etc.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's possible Zane, but I don't think so. Milk spots are very consistant in color. These spots are not as they have dark centers.
     
  21. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator


    I didn't see the picture that had the light at first. I will revise and say that I agree they are not milk spots. Not sure what they could be, or how it got there. In this case some acetone of a very quick dip might be benificial, but it is hard to say.
     
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