Napoleon III 20 cent and 1863 Civil war token

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 1066merlin, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    Hi all,
    any thoughts?
    Here are 2 more items I'm considering buying from a friend.
    The Napoleon has a very dark tone, I'm sure because it has been stored in an antique tobacco tin for who knows how many years. It seems to be a real good stike and the coin shows very little wear IMO.
    The civil war token is holed but not in to bad of shape either.
    Thanks!
     

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  3. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Both are nice pieces. Congrats.
     
  4. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I can't help you with the Napoleon Mark, but the Civil War token is listed in Fuld as 169/213a/b. The obverse die (flag) is #169 and the reverse (cannon) is #213. The a or b indicate the metal type. "b" stands for brass and "a" I'm pretty sure indicates copper (the most common material used in CWTs). Yours would be a 169/213a (it looks copper to me) and so a Rarity-2. If it were brass it would be an R-9. Kanzinger notes that the 169/213b is designated "n/a", meaning it was a collector strike which wasn't intended to circulate, and as a result is much rarer. If this one weren't holed it might bring $50.00, but with the hole probably no more than $20.00. I love it just the same. There's so much history with these pieces it just makes them so interesting.

    Bruce
     
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