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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by SilverDollarMan, Apr 20, 2005.

  1. SilverDollarMan

    SilverDollarMan Collecting Fool

    Everyone keeps saying 1950d Jeffy, I wonder bout that one. Any other SHOULD or SHOULDN'T buy coins? TIA :):D
     
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  3. OldDan

    OldDan 共和党

    I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is much of a market for 1964-D Peace Dollars. :rolleyes:
     
  4. knowtracks

    knowtracks Senior Member

    Originally Posted by Old Dan,
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    I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is much of a market for 1964-D Peace Dollars.

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    Or the 1923 P Walking Eagle!
     
  5. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I would agree that 1950-D nickels
    Franklins Halves (not proofs)
    Some Morgan dollars like the 1882-CC
    Some LG cents and some Half Dimes.

    Speedy
     
  6. Midas

    Midas Coin Hoarder

    1903-S Barber Dime...other than the 1916-D Merc, it has very low mintage numbers and the prices for these are way less (proportionately) than the 1916-D Merc...but still very attractive...for now.

    1971-P IKE. Try finding business strike IKEs in MS65 grades or better. If you get one, hold on to it. The mints were pretty sloppy when they made these and MS65 grades or better grades are tough to come by.

    All CC mints. There is something to be said holding a coin minted in the "Old West". That's just me...but boy are these coins rising in prices.

    PR69DCAM Lincoln Memorials before the 1980's. Not too many collectors paid attention to collecting these, so some of the population levels are low thereby commanding higher dollars as today collectors want the best of the best!

    Early Red Lincolns in general. Keeping them red is a challenge. Finding MS Reds before 1940 is getting more and more difficult. You want MS Red...plan on paying big dollars.
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I forgot the 1998S Matted Proof Kennedy....

    I'm one that doesn't think there is such a thing as a MS/PF-70 coin...so I don't know what I think about the PF69DCAMEO cents....I'll have to think about that....

    Speedy
     
  8. SilverDollarMan

    SilverDollarMan Collecting Fool

    Thx, keep 'em coming!
     
  9. Prethen

    Prethen Senior Member

    Three-Cent Nickels!!!!
    Early Proofs (1858-1916; especially 1860's - 1870's)
     
  10. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Denver minted gem cents from the late '70's.
    PL Ikes, Kennedys, and memorial cents.
    MS-61 1969, 1971, all '82/3, and mid '90's quarters.
    '82 NMM dime.
    All gem clad mint state Ikes.
    High grade proofs except most PR-70's.
    Modern world coins
    3c nickels
    US and world patterns
    Shield nickels
    souvenir mint sets
    Almost any attractive mint state clad coin.
    High grade circulated clad (especially early issues)
    clad varieties (though these aren't likely to wake up soon)
     
  11. Spider

    Spider ~

    souvenir mint sets??????????? what are these?
     
  12. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    They are mint sets from the mint---I think you can only get them when you visit the mints....

    Speedy
     
  13. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector


    Yeah. That's it.

    They started production of these in 1972 but there are rumors that a few '71 sets were produced. Only 400 of each the Philly and Denver sets were made the first year and production ramped up quickly to probably between eight and ten thousand for most dates. The popular '82 a'83 sets had mintages between 10,000 and 20,000. The higher mintages for these was caused by a few limited mail order sales but it's possible some other dates were available other than at the respective mint they were issued. The Denver mint sets were available without taking the tour at the gift shop and mintages tend to be a little higher for these. 1987 had very high production because it was known in advance that there would be no half dollars made for circulation. They ceased production in 1998 because of the logistics of trying to make them concurrently with the states issues. It has been said that later dates often contain coins which are burnished proof likes.

    All these sets contained five coins and a large bronze medal depicting the mint the coins were made at. These were sealed in a pliofilm packet much like the standard mint set. Most Denver sets come in a dark blue envelope with no padding and the Phillys in a light blue or greenish envelope. Most were made in batches so there will be some packaging and other variation for many dates.

    Generally quality of the coins is not as high as the regular mint set coins. Many speps are taken to assure the finest quality in mint sets but these were mostly pulled from regular production runs. They obviously tried to put the best coins in them though. There are no varieties I'm aware of in the regular souvenir set but there are near date dollars in some 1979 special souvenir sets. '75 sets are also tough and may contain a special commemorative medal.

    These sets have never attracted much interest and can still be found very cheaply. Despite the tiny mintages the attrition on these might be even higher than on the regular mint sets.

    It probably wouldn't be wise to be large premiums for these due to the dangers of counterfeiting but some will prove very difficult to fake and there seems to be growing interest in the sets.
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Thanks Cladking---I knew you would know....

    Prethen
    I also think some of the proof Franklins are low...like the 1962 and such...what are your thoughts on PF Franklins...I know some of the older dates are high but it seems the last few dates don't get much of a price.

    Speedy
     
  15. cdb1950

    cdb1950 Senior Member

    The 'old style' Jefferson nickels in high (MS65 or better) grade, especially the early ones, 1938 - 1942. Uncirculated 1938 PDS and 1939 PDS Jeffs with the reverse of 1938 with good steps, only need 5 mildly distinct steps to make full steps.

    This is now an obsolete coin design and has the potential to really take off. Check the prices realized on Teletrade lately, and see how they are steadily rising. Original rolls are quickly becoming very hard to find.

    Slider AU/BU or problem pieces won't cut it, though. They really have to have the grade. Full Steps will substantially increase the value, too.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not often I'll disagree with you clad - but some of these are anything but cheap. The "82 & '83 P & D sets currently sell for anywhere from $40 to $100 each.

    You are correct - I have seen counterfeit Mint sets and Souvenir sets. And unless you are very familiar these sets - you'll never know the difference as long as the coins ar Unc.
     
  17. Prethen

    Prethen Senior Member

    Early vs. Modern Proofs

    I happen to own the 1950-1963 proofs sets so I do have all the Proof Franklins, so I might sound a bit hypocritical when I say I can't get excited about Proof Franklins. They're simply too many of them in most, but the earliest, years. I strongly urge you to read up on as much as you can about the Early Proofs and you'll see that their prices are really not that bad. Instead of buying a few common modern coins, I'd save up to purchase a nice PF64+ 1800's coin. Believe it or not, 3CN are pretty cheap and so are 2-Cent RB coins. Only buy slabbed Early Proofs (ICG, NGC, PCGS, ANACS) and buy what you find eye appealing. The mintages are commonly 1000 or less with many of the later copper and nickely mintages going into 3000 or so (the highest is about 6600 for 1883). Keep in mind, only about half of any given mintage survives, at the most (as a rule of thumb)!

     
  18. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I see what you mean...I have been looking on and off for some older proofs like IHC's and such...but even though they are cheap some of them just aren't cheap enough for me---if you know what I mean....

    Speedy
     
  19. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    Civil War tokens in general are greatly undervalued IMO. While some can reach 5 figure prices, there are R9 rarity (2 to 4 known) cwts that list in Unc for around $50. Pretty inexpensive for any 140 year old pristine items of that scarcity!
     
  20. Midas

    Midas Coin Hoarder

    I know that Speedy likes his Franklins and the last show I was at in Orlando, there were many table conversations on Proof Franklins. The general concensus...a 15 year run (only) making it attractive for some collectors to complete a set...either in MS or PR. Prices...only going UP!

    Plus, they really are a beautiful coin. Collect what you like. It is too bad it only lasted 15 years.
     
  21. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Midas--
    I think there are only 14 dates in the set...
    How were the sets put together....I'm doing mine so that they all must be slabbed by one of the top 4 and they must be PF66 or PF66CAMEO.
    I have seen since I started that the price has gone up and I think it will drop soon.

    Speedy
     
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