My other new pickup - Swiss (1808 Bern 5 Batzen) Guess the Grade

Please guess the grade and use the poll.

 

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(SWITZERLAND - Bern - 5 Batzen, 1808)

 

This is a toughie. First impression, MS65.
Second " , MS64.
Third " , MS64.

 

I voted details, now I'm not sure why, on second thought I think it may be 58 due to what I think may be some rubs on the bear.
The truth is I know nothing about this series and I'm sure it's obvious.

 

That's a beauty! I'm thinking it's a 64 as well! There's one area that puzzles me tho', the A and N of CATON, wth is it??! It's on the other side as well! Still, a really cool coin, love the bear!

 

You crack me up. What is great about your post is you give a reason(s) for your grade. I should do the same.

 

Next time post full image.

 

What do you mean?

 

Maybe x-ray images are needed somehow?

 

When uploading a photo, you have an option to choose thumbnail or full size. Either one allows those of us with poor eyesight to enlarge the photo.

 

It is a full size image. Is it small on your end? On my end, each side covers my full laptop screen.

 

It does so on Meow's CatLapTop too.

 

Must be me. I cannot enlarge the photo. Forget my post.

 

Try right clicking with your mouse and selecting "open image in new tab" as that might help.

 

Best I could do was to enlarge by 10%. Thanks for trying to help.

 

Any other guesses?

 

And the reveal is.....MS 65
...this coin is hard to photograph and the auction company focused on capturing the colors. It is also prooflike (not on the holder as this generation-8.1, which was issued from Sept 2000 to July 2001- is before they started designating world coins as PL in 2003).

 

very nice, I guessed it right!!! woohoo!