My new halves...check out the 1806

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mark_h, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Here are my new halves - grading opinions are always welcome and if you think I attributed one of them incorrectly please mention it. You can see my attribution in the thumbnail name. The surface of the 1806 almost makes it look like the surface is wavy - but the weak strike on front and reverse is where the slight wave occurs. If you read my other thread in the coin chat - I was searching one of the boxes from the back, when I found this coin. I stuck it to the side to purchase as I was talking to Rob(just met at the coin store) - Rob was surprised he missed the coin. It turns out that Rob buys a lot of CBH from them, looks like he is working on gold right now. It was good to meet and talk to someone about strategy and coins face to face.

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Ohhhh Maaaan... Those are gorgeous. :eek:hya::eek:hya::eek:hya: Currently, I'm a tad too lazy to go grab my attribution books so please forgive me.

    Great Looking Coins
    Ben
     
  4. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Ooooohhh.... that 1806 is SWEET !
    I'm diggin' the chest-clash on the rev.

    Question for the experienced half collectors.....
    Did they punch the letters on the obv ?
    Just wondering, as the T is doubled and the others appear not to be.
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Mine has the re-cut (T) as well, but no cracks, O-105.
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  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Way to go Mark !!
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Ben - no problem I just realized I marked the 1806 pictures incorrectly. It should be O-115A. So I have to go fix that. And thanks for the other comments. If you look real close you will also see the Y is re-cut also. I did not even have to use a glass on this puppy or the low grade 1808 to see the die clashes. I will try to post my 1808's tomorrow.
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Fixed the pictures. By the way I think mine matches this one on coinzip. I have been using it(if examples are available) and heritage after going through my book.
     
  9. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Great pickups Mark. I agree with the last two. The 06, I dont know about that one, your label on the pics say its an 0-110A I think you need to look at the O-115. Notice all the die breaks.


    Great I go and dig out my book and you figure it out in the meantime.. LOL.. Good Job Mark!
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    You were posting while I was fixing the picture - I now have it as O-115A. Do you think that is correct? I am almost positive, but reassurance would be nice.
     
  11. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Mmmmmmmmmm, die breaks.
    I like them when they become that extensive.
    Adds personality.
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Very nice NEWPS Mark. Congrats.

    Tell me, guys, is the wavy look on the 1806 from the die/strike or something else?
     
  13. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Could it be from one of the dies being loose ?
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It appears to have been dented or slightly bent.
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    The final comments at the store was that more research needed to be done on the die state and planchet flaws. I find it curious that the weak strike coincides with the bulge. I really do not know and to me it does not distract from the coin. It is much more obvious in the picture than in hand. I searched heritage and looked at almost every picture of a O-115A coin that they had. None seemed to have such prominent die cracks as the one I have - and most seem to have weak strikes right were mine as the bulge. Basically I do not know. What I would like to think is that as the dies came together on the planchet, the outside of the dies continued to shatter causing a bulge in the planchet and the weak strike on the obverse. Possible - don't know. Very interesting coin to say the least.
     
  16. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I don't think it's bent. I'll bet the die had some issues and may have been approaching terminal state.

    Take Care
    Ben
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    To be completely candid, that was my first thought too (bent), but it doesn't have the wear patterns on both sides to indiciate this.

    Interesting coin....Mike
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I have seen some pictures of large cents where die swelling and die sinking have been mentioned when describing the coins slightly out of shape. The dealer also mentioned the wear pattern like you Mike, but he still was not sure. I really like the die state of this coin even if it turn out bent. I think it is cool. Thanks for all the opinions. Now to get some pictures of my more humble 1808's.
     
  19. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Mark, what is your BHD total now?

    Nice Coins Bud
    Ben
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    26 CBH and 6 DBH. 25 varieties and 6 varieties, respectively. Two low grade 1808's are coming up next. See what you started. :) So thanks - I like these as much as my large cents and more than my IHC's. But I am still working on those. One of the things I am going to ask about is the 1815 next week with those AGE's. I have to admit so far I have been looking(at the local store mainly) for die cracks and overdates. Things that make them easier to attribute - not always, but most of the times.
     
  21. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    It's a passion one can't fully understand until after it's started. :smile

    Way to go... :thumb:
    Ben
     
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