My new favourite provincial? Asclepius and Serpent.

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  1. Nvb

    Nvb Well-Known Member

    Roma auctions have been good to me lately, and last week I was lucky enough to come away with this Roman Provincial gem.

    Asclepius, son of Apollo, was the Greek god of healing. His serpent entwined staff is still a universally recognized symbol of medical care.
    Named after Asclepius was the ancient greek equivalent of a hospital and full service wellness sanctuary, an Asclepeion.
    These places were holistic in nature; in addition to routine medical treatment patients could expect amenities like libraries, fitness centers, entertainment and of course plenty of spritual guidance... sounds nice doesn't it?
    Along with the priests and medical practitioners, an asclepeion was also home to many dogs and (harmless) snakes who were thought to have healing powers of their own.
    The Thracian town of Pautalia (modern day Kyustendil, Bulgaria) was founded around the 4th century BC, and is the site of one of the largest and most impressive Asclepeions in the region; apparently the 3rd largest on the Balkan Peninsula.

    It really is no suprise then to see our friend the healer make an appearance on the local coinage.
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    But to do so with such panache? Amazing!

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    Description
    Septimius Severus Æ29 of Pautalia, Thrace. AD 193-211.
    AY K Λ CЄΠTI CЄVHPOC ΠЄP, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right /
    Asclepius seated right on back of winged serpent, holding serpent-entwined staff; serpent-entwined staff; OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC in two lines below. Varbanov 4681-9 var. (obv. legend).
    29mm
    14.65g,
    7h
    Very Fine. Extremely Rare.

    Please post your Asclepius, Serpents, or anything else you feel is relevant.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Well now, I can certainly see why that one has your appreciation.

    I want an ancient "serpent" coin (and one with an octopus, too), but always seemed to get outbid on the few I've taken a stab at. The "cista mystica" types don't appeal to me so much, but that could change, I suppose.

    That big 'un you have there is very, very impressive. Bet it wasn't cheap.
     
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  4. Nvb

    Nvb Well-Known Member

    This will count as my first serpent coin too, and as is often the case with rarities the type just wasn't on my radar until this example came along. It certainly wasnt cheap but not out of sight either. I'm entirely comfortable with the price paid.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Oh that is fantastic! It's the most artist example of that reverse I've seen! Envious :D

    Here's the same type issued by his son.

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    THRACE, Pautalia. Caracalla
    CE 198-217
    AE29, 16.4 gm
    Obv: AYT K M AY CEY ANTΩNEINOC; Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: OYΛΠIAC ΠAYTAΛIAC; Asklepios seated right on back of winged serpent
    Ref: Varbanov 5007

    Caracalla was a supplicant of Asklepios, reportedly beseeching the god to cure his illness. The exact nature of his illness is unknown but sounds mental. Cassius Dio recorded these speculations in Roman History, book LXXVIII, 15.3-7.

    "For he was sick not only in body, partly from visible partly from secret ailments, but in mind as well, suffering from certain distressing visions, and often he thought he was being pursued by his father and by his brother, armed with swords."

    Dio opines that the gods were not impressed by his offerings, judging Caracalla by his deeds rather than his gifts.

    "This showed most clearly that they regarded, not his votive offerings or his sacrifices, but only his purposes and his deeds. He received no help from Apollo Grannus, nor yet from Aesculapius or Serapis, in spite of his many supplications and his unwearying persistence. For even while abroad he sent to them prayers, sacrifices and votive offerings, and many couriers ran hither and thither every day carrying something of this kind; and he also went to them himself, hoping to prevail by appearing in person, and did all that devotees are wont to do; but he obtained nothing that contributed to health."
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Absolutely lovely! This reverse type is now on my wanted list!

    Here's my new favorite Asklepios coin -- because it features his daughter, Hygieia, alongside him!

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    Faustina II, AD 147-175.
    Roman provincial Æ 22.7 mm, 6.54 g, 7 h.
    Thrace, Hadrianopolis, AD 147-155.
    Obv: ·I·AVCTEINA CEBACTH, pearl-diademed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: AΔPIANOΠOΛEITΩN, Hygieia, feeding serpent from patera, and Asklepios, leaning on serpent-entwined staff, standing facing one-another.
    Refs: RPC (temp) 10453; SNG Cop 560; Jurukova 84-87; Varbanov 3219; Moushmov 2521; Mionnet suppl. 2, 636.
     
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  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    What an awsome design , congrats Nvb

    Snake Asclepious.jpg

    Perhaps you like this cista mystica , Lordmarcovan:

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  8. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Very cool coin, congratulations.

    I only got 1 Greek coin featuring Asklepios with a serpent.

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    Mysia, Pergamon. Asklepios bronze coin. (133–27 B.C.)
    Obverse:
    Laureate head of Asklepios right
    Reverse: Serpent entwined around staff of Asklepios. ΑΣΚΛΗΠΙΟΥ ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ.
    Reference: SNG von Aulock 1373, SNG Cop. 370-376.
    4.03g; 15mm
     
  9. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Awesome coin Nvb, great looker definitely some thought went into the reverse design.
     
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    kool coin Nvb....who doesn't like a serpent coin?!....i need more in my collection as well..i bought this coin just because it had a snake on it not rounds    snake coin 003.JPG not rounds    snake coin 004.JPG (?) Marcrinus & Diadumenian Serpent Roman/Greek provincial...
     
  11. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    Nice win, @Nvb. I was an early underbidder.
     
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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a fantastic reverse, @Nvb! Congrats on the win. This post reminds me that I have an example of this provincial type under Caracalla afflicted with BD in need of some "healing." :(
     
  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I love these types!

    Here are some coins I think are relevant:

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    Septimius Severus, 193 - 211 AD
    Æ 8 Assaria, 32mm, 15.31g, 8h; Thrace, Pautalia Mint.
    Obv.: AV K A CEΠTI CEVHPOC ΠEP; Laureate head of Septimius right.
    Rev.: OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC; Fourfold coiled serpent with erect head right.

    It's little brother:
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    Commodus; Philppopolis, Thrace; AD 180-192
    AE, 4.07g, 18mm; 6h
    Obv.: AY K? M?...-KOMOΔOC; laureate head right
    Rev.: [Φ]ΙΛΙΠΠΟ[ΠOΛEITΩN]; bearded, coiled serpent with two head fins
    Ref.: Varbanov 994 - Wildwinds offers no description of the legend. Looking at other coins the obverse description may read AY K AI AYP KOMOΔOC. The K on the obv is hard to read and the AI looks a lot like an M. My understanding is Varbanov is not clear on this coin either.

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    Caracalla, AD 198-217
    AE30, 14.9g, 7h; Thrace, Pautalia.
    Obv.: AVT K MAVP CEV ANTONEINOC, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC, Asklepios standing front, looking left, leaning on serpent-entwined staff.

    How about a Hygieia?
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    Caracalla, AD 198-217.
    Æ30, 16.2g, 7h; THRACE, Serdica.
    Obv.: AVT K M AVP CEVH ANTWNEINOC; Laureate head right.
    Rev.: OYΛΠIAC CEΡΔIKHC; Hygieia standing right, feeding serpent in arms.
     
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  14. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    B28B8723-1CF2-495E-99B9-AC5A8AC21495.jpeg 811DCC71-AB54-4DE7-8B3C-D2CBF6168849.jpeg 16093334-64A9-46C9-9D54-3784841A94CA.jpeg 6A41E35F-F7E0-4194-9148-18D9FF397FC5.jpeg 95061C29-FD0F-4653-BACE-26DDD6BA8C44.jpeg 1774F5F7-95AB-4C7D-95E0-733EFDC270C4.jpeg 95E14E89-3723-4B08-827D-6982FB84768A.jpeg C7095A00-018F-4EDE-89DD-4652C5AFD02C.jpeg 57AC959E-953A-45FB-B10D-EFCA73EA159F.jpeg I’ll be lazy and post some photos and a link to my Forvm collection. I have more of these than I realized, hence my laziness in not typing out the descriptions.

    The first is Julia Domna but the rest are Septimius Severus. If you would like to read about each coin, check out my Forvm collection:

    https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6295
     
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  15. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    That is a beautiful coin - congratulations.

    This one must have been a stowaway..

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  16. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    My only Asclepius:

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    One could image that having your own brother murderd, in the arms of your mother, would cause a malfunction in the brain. Or would it have been the other way around; the malfunction was already there?
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    That's a big sweet provincial @Nvb ! What a cool reverse!

    I have a Asklepios and serpent from Mysia match with pavlos.


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