My latest eBay purchase...your opinions please

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mikenoodle, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

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  3. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    There isn't $11 worth of gold in it, and it's most likely fake.

    Still neat though.
     
  4. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    you've been had, no way its authentic
     
  5. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    I'm afraid I agree but for 11 bucks who cares?
     
  6. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    It's a fake! Check his feedback. The last buyer to purchase California Gold Coin from him left negative feedback. Email the seller and refuse to pay!
     
  7. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    he has about 20 negs for those fake gold coins
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It is absolutely fake - appears to be brass.
     
  9. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    It looks like it could even be covered in gold leaf foil.
    :(
     
  10. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Not my style at all... It's $15 in the end and I have paid more for lessons in the past. I agree that I have been had, and this is exactly the type of auction that gives eBay a bad name. Question is... beyond leaving a negative feedback, what other course of action do I have? He did say token in his description, even though his auction screamed gold coin!

    Is there any approach to use with eBay over misleading descriptions like this one?
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    And he described it as gold - it isn't. That's about the only leg you'd have to stand on. I doubt eBay would do anything. The seller also has no return policy. I say your stuck with chalking this one up to experience.
     
  12. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Mike Locke describes your token as...

    Modern copy from Japan*
    Liberty head, 13 clover shaped stars around. +(2)
    Wreath with 1852 inside "ONE-HALF CALIFORNIA GOLD" around Seen in early-ish die state, possibly a different obv die and not part of the Japanese set

    Pretty close to worthless.


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  13. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder


    Like I said, I would refuse to pay. If you have evidence, and you do, that the seller misrepresented the item in his listing then the auction is considered null and void. At least try emailing the seller and explaining to him why you feel it is unjust for him to expect you to pay for that item. Then wait for his reply and who knows, maybe he'll be understanding.
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I am going to report if indeed it is not gold. That is the misleading fact here and IMHO the way to get this guy to stop. If I can make a difference for others, then my work is worthwhile. If I can only help myself, then I will not be as happy and my confidence in eBay will be a bit shaken.
     
  15. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    if you look at his feedback for July 6th someone says:

    GOLD COINS ARE REPLICAS, AND CONTAIN NO REAL GOLD BUYER BEWARE CHECK FEEDBACK1ST

    I would send the guy a polite email and say you have researched this and the coin is not as advertised and you don't want it, then see what he says.

    He may just agree with you and let it go.
     
  16. CoinGal07

    CoinGal07 Still Collecting

    I think you should refuse to pay simply to make him stop writing misleading ads.

    His title should read 'replica of a gold coin' and this nonsense would stop.

    Advice for covering yourself on Ebay:1) pay w/a credit card, NOT paypal ~ because my credit card WILL get my money back for me on disputed items, where Paypal seemed to protect the seller 2) if it sounds too good to be true, it likely is ... so dont worry about missing the item because the sale is about to end .. if it's that RARE it wouldn't be on EBAY. Take your time, get the seller to confirm your questions before you bid.
    And finally .. check here. This forum will give you far better advice and support than Ebay or PayPal. I reported a bad seller there & the community said it was 'my' fault for not reading all the feedback, etc... but the seller had 100% positive at the time of the auction sell so either it was a hijacked seller name or he (seller) lost his mind, morals, or prozac all at the same time.

    On a different note - reading the details of their ad, do you think there is any connection between selling fake gold & radar detectors..?? Sounds like someone has had to get out of town really fast a time or two....
     
  17. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    LMAO:D
     
  18. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I would complain to ebay about misrepresentation. Hopefully, it will help prevent him from doing this again in the future.

    It looks like a modern brass copy from the 1970s.
     
  19. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    More fodder for the ebay game. IF you leave a negative feedback he'll leave one too. One that you don't deserve of course.
    Obviously the guy is selling fakes. Perhaps we should all dig into his feedback and report his next auction. Sure as hell ain't bidding.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Mike -

    I had to look all over to find it but I finally did - eBay's rules for selling coins and paper money : Selling Coins. Now according to that the seller is in clear violation of eBay policy. You just might be able ot get out of this and get the seller kicked out.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Here is eBay's wording again "Sellers who knowingly fail to disclose information...." He should not have a problem getting his money back but will probably have to receive the coin, have it documented as a counterfeit, and then return it. The only hope of anything happening to the seller is due to his previous feedback. Even then, "gold" is a color as well as a metal.
     
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