My first Redfield Morgan :)... GTG

Let's play GTG with these pics then again with my pics when it arrives today or Monday...

 

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Very nice.

 

Pretty decent looking coin. 63-64, I guess.

 

I'll start with 63-64. Any plans to get PCGS or NGC to weigh in on a grade?

 

I'm seeing a 63+ very possibly 64

 

Redfield graded Morgans are notoriously over graded by 1, mostly 2 points.

Nice looking 63

 

I'll go MS64. Nice coin!

 

Just trivia but I thought it was interesting....Conder101 states in an old thread that when Paramount was selling these, standards for MS grades had not been established. The first edition ANA book was still several years out. So yes these often are overgraded by todays standards but one cannot fairly charge the company with overgrading at the time.

 

I'm seeing a great looking 63 but it was graded 2 grades above by a marketing grading services just because it's a Redfield. We're selling the name, not the coin.

 

LaVere rocks!

 

I dunno maybe. Most 81s Redfields I've seen are extreemly baggy for some reason. Maybe from the laundry shoot express, I don't know. But this one was relatively clean especially on the obverse plus it has a little color. I have it at 64 due to the reverse bagmarks I just hope the pics aren't hiding anything more than minor luster breaks on the cheek.

And yes guys, these Paramount grades are meaningless really.

 

... I haven't read that yet!

 

It's a good book. LaVere was quite a money man. And he did it starting with nothing during the Great Depression.

 

It's on the cusp of 63/64, but I would lean 64. Nice pick up! TC

 

The obverse is pretty nice and the reverse, at least from these pics, isn't all as baggy as you indicate. I'm going to step out on the grading limb and go 65. "Shoot if you must, this old gray head..."

Steve

 

That's pretty much what I was thinking when I pulled the trigger. From these pics I doubted a 63 and thought 65 might not be out of the question. Just being conservative until I have it in hand

 

Is it yours? I'd be interested in borrowing it. And yes, he made his money in cheap depression era real estate from my understanding. He would drive a beat up pickup truck with banded $10K bricks of cash he'd carry around in a paper bag. I have a big family connection to the tahoe reno area which is why I've always liked his story and I chose 81s as my first because it's my centennial birthyear and home state mint
.. why couldn't I have been born in Nevada in 1989 or cali in 1993 lol

 

Pictures can be "touched up" - just a little.

 

Not with GC. They use professional techniques is all which accentuates the beauty but can hide minor imperfections

 

Well it does look extremely nice, just have to see what the bag marks look like in hand.