My first Nero has arrived

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  1. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    B8442BC5-BB81-4D31-925E-4AA320A3B6BA.jpeg I hope I’ve attributed it correctly. The ebay details were minimal but I felt comfortable enough to buy.

    Nero & Augustus Billon Tetradrachm of Roman Alexandria.
    Year 13 = 66-67 AD.
    NEPW KLAV KAIS SEBA GEP, radiate bust left wearing aegis, date LIG to left
    QEOS SEBASTOS, radiate head of Augustus right.
    Köln 177, RPC 5294.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice Tet of his. Always a fan of the dark toning.
     
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  4. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Looks good. I like his tetradrachms.

    John
     
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  5. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    Nice coin!
     
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  6. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    A small suggestion for your future posts: when you upload a picture, choose the "Full Image" option -- it's more convenient for the other collectors on this site who read your thread.
     
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  7. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Great coin!
     
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  8. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Thanks! Done and done.
     
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  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Pleasant busts, nice catch on your first Nero

    Q
     
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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. I wonder why it was struck with Augustus on one side given that Nero and Augustus were about 50 years apart. Was it a kind of “restitution” issue honoring Augustus? Interesting pairing.
     
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  11. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    My first Nero was also an Egyptian Tet.
     
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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Interesting question. I'd love to know the whys of coins design for so many emperors!

    On his Egyptian coins Nero is paired with several emperors and empresses: Augustus, Octavia, Tiberius, Aggripina, Poppaea. As for showing Augustus, Octavia, and Tiberius, perhaps he wanted to drive home his "right" to the throne as a member of the Julio-Claudian dynasty, given the machinations Aggripina went through to get him there. Aggripina's appearance probably reflects her dominance in Nero's early life and early years as emperor.
     
  14. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    I like it! Congrats!
     
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  15. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. I'd like to get a nice example of Nero someday, probably a sestertius.
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    There is a great website here that will allow you to convert Roman to Greek letters. Then you can copy and paste (and change a few back to Roman ones, such as V, C (lunate sigma) and L (for "year")) like so: ΝΕΡΩ ΚΛΑV ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒΑ ΓΕΡ; LΙΓ / ΘΕΟΣ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΣ.
     
  17. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    That item of the L standing for year (of regnal issue) is an abbreviated form of the letter, E, epsilon, the first letter of ETOUS, year.
     
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  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    We've had this discussion here before and that's probably not the derivation of this symbol.
     
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  19. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    My reference for this is the book, Coins and Archaeology by Lloyd R. Laing, Schocken Books, NYC, 1970 US Edition, page 21, on ancient coin chronology where he details the use of ETOYS (of the year) on Egyptian coins which is abbreviated to L the fragmentary of the initial letter E. If the reader is not familiar with professor Laing he was a lecturer in archaeology at the University of Liverpool, a Fellow of the Society of Antiquarians and fellow of the Royal Numismatic Society. In his lifetime he has directed many excavations. I have had this book for decades and have found it to be quite accurate when it comes to ancient and medieval numismatics. Thanks for the previous link to the present discussion but I think I will go with this book's explanation of the L as a short hand demotic for ETOYS. Remember that L is not a letter in the Greek alphabet so it is shorthand for something else, and a shortened letter E, easier to inscribe than the full letter and easier to place next to another letter seems to make good sense.
     
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  20. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coin. I'm starting to collect Alexandrian tets as a specialty. I'd like to get coins of each emperor/empress...and perhaps some Ptolemies. I've got about 15 Roman period tets so far.
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Curious and confused by this statement that the book states:
    I always thought Lamda was the Greek ‘L’ (Λλ).
     
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