My first Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine if you must) coin for the year

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Good pick in a very competitive auction!

Here is trachy of mine, with battle scars like yours

 

I mean, if you really can't stand calling it Byzantine....you can send it my way I will happily call it Byzantine all day long

We only have one trachy in our collection. Picked out of Harlan J. Berk "junk bin" at the last Baltimore Whitman show what seems like a lifetime ago. I've bid on several but have never had any luck.

Empire Of Nicaea
Theodore I Comnenus-Lascaris
1208-1222
Billon Trachy
Obverse: IC-XC. Christ, bearded and nimbate, seated facing, holding book of gospels
Reverse: Theodore, crowned, full length figure standing facing, wearing loros, holding cross-headed sceptre and akakia

 

Broken is the theme of the day!

Alexius I/ Transitional
AR Histamenon Nomisma
1081 to 1082 AD
Obvs: ::KЄRO ΛΛЄϞIω IC XC, Christ bearded and nimbate wearing tunic and kolobion. Holds gospels in left hand
Revs: ·ΔIMITI ΔϵCΠTH, St. Demetrius standing 3/4 facing presenting labarum to Alexius which holds sword and grasps shaft of labarum.
27x29mm, 4.17g.
Thessalonica mint
Ref: Sear 1904, DOC 4.1
Note: Sear lists as "Extremely rare", chipped

 

Nice "Eastern Roman" coin....

 

Nice coins! Its really easy to differiant Byzantine from Eastern Roman Empire. Byzantine starts with Anastasius I 491-518AD ends with Mehmet II sacking Constantinople in 1453.
Zeno/ Leontius I/ Marcian/ Basiliscus are Eastern Roman Emperors/ Usurpers.
Here are one of each...even I got it wrong originally had my Anastasius labelled as "Eastern Roman Empire" now been corrected.

 

I would agree with you. For me the Roman Empire ended when Alaric I (Germanic King) sacked Rome. The other so called Western Roman Emperors where mere puppets to their German masters upto Romulus Augustalus in 476AD. The Eastern Roman Empire based in Constantinople would continue to 1453/ but had a few close calls when the Crusaders looted the capital, the Emperor fled to Nicea. Mercifully Mehmet II finished them off/ now its part of Turkey. However most historians have given them that awfull name, "Byzantine"

 

...In the interests of emphasizing the fact that @AussieCollector isn't just being a curmudgeon about this (...granted, Curmudgeon Spoken Here, Fluently!), the Seljuk Turks were still calling the European side of the Bosphorus 'Roman,' on the eve of the fall of Constantinople.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumelihisarı
The term also memorably shows up on folles of Leo the Wise, as of the early 10th century.
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2129699
...In the latter instance, the linguistic dialectic is especially cool. 'Basilevs [Greek] Romeon.' Just on a linguistic level, you can get the gestalt of an effectively seamless continuity of these folks referring to themselves as Roman, but in contemporaneous Greek. ...Going back to, for one obvious collective instance, Roman Provincial coins.

 

..very nice 'cup' coin AC...i've nary a 'cup' yet in mein collection....but not from lack of bidding, but lack of bid amount...so far..

 

...Just, Clap Hands about Everything you said!
...In the interests of full disclosure, I'd really like @Only a Poor Old Man, just for one, to weigh in on this. --Nope, @Only a Poor Old Man (and the rest of you Deep "Byzantine" guys), that was only a friendly nudge!

 

Most certainly! I am willing to put an end to this debate once and for all, as it continuously troubles Historians and Coin-talk members alike...

How about we just call them Greeks? After all, that's what they were... The Eastern Roman empire was a administrative continuation of the eastern part of the Roman empire, but the people, the language, and the territory were predominantly Greek.

And to keep it coin-relevant, here is my other trachy:

 

They did indeed refer to themselves as "Greek".
I will still call them Byzantine though

 

@furryfrog02, that's Totally legal, especially as long as you (or other parties, the present one emphatically included) acknowledge that, in a broader historiographical context, this kind of shorthand exists mainiy for our communal, as such very relative, inexorably revisionist convenience.

 

Thank you, @Only a Poor Old Man, for bringing me (for one) back to reality, just so far as the operant ethnic dynamics were (and are) concerned.

 

One that I just photographed. An acquisition from the beginning of the year. My lighting is off and I am trying to get better at capturing the beauty of gold coinage.


ALEXIUS I COMNENUS (1081-1118) Hyperpyron.

Obv: + KЄ ROHΘЄI / IC - XC.
Christ Pantokrator seated facing on throne.

Rev: Alexius standing facing, holding labarum and globus cruciger; crowning manus Dei above, five small pellets in loros end.

Sear 1924.

Condition: Good very fine.

Weight: 4.33 g.
Diameter: 27 mm.

 

That is a nice example!