My first coin show of 2023, a surprise Julian siliqua.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JayAg47, Feb 11, 2023.

  1. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    While it's no NYINC, it's still a humble show where I could get gems like these, I was rummaging through a dealer's ancient unattributed junk lot and came across this coin, at first I thought it was one of those late Roman bronzes, but noticed some silvery deposits, so I took a chance and bought it for 20 bucks. At first I cleaned it with baking soda, and then treated with sodium thiosulfate to remove some horn silver, although I didn't clean it thoroughly as to leave a little deposits for some contrast.

    Before
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    After
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    DN CL IVLIANVS AVG

    VOTIS V MVLTIS X
    TR (Treveri), Palm branch next to mint mark, 1.70g.

    I'm glad all the legends are present on both sides given how these siliquae were extensively clipped!

    Please share your coins of the last apostate!
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    A siliqua for 20 bucks?!? Big win!!! Who cares if it's rough- that was a cool cherrypick! I can see how it would have been overlooked in a pick bin of LRBs.

    Here's mine.

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  4. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    My best Julian II... dark greenish patina in hand...
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    Julian II. Regin: AD 360-363. Æ ( 3.19 gr.) Constantinople mint, 3rd officina.
    This type struck late AD 361-summer 363.
    Obv.: D N FL CL IVLI-ANVS P F AVG Pearl-diademed and cuirassed bust left, wearing crested helmet and holding round shield and spear forward.
    Rev.: VOT/X/MVLT/XX in four lines; all within wreath; (palm frond) CONSPΓ (palm frond).
    Attrib.: RIC VIII 166. LRBC 2060.
    Note: Dark greenish patina. :)
     
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  5. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Julien César.jpg
    AE3 of Julian Caesar (355-361), Alexandria mint (RIC VIII Alexandria 88)


    Julien Securitas.jpg Double majorina (?) or AE1 of Julian Augustus (361-363), Thessalonica mint (RIC VIII Thessalonica 226)
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I know centering is less consistent on ancient coins, and that an off-center error is much less of a big deal on these handmade pieces than it would be on a modern, machine-made piece. Still, the way-off-centeredness of that first Æ3 is impressive, and really gives it character.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have learned the joys of the siliqua since I got into the 4th century Roman emperors. I like high quality silver coins! I'm still in the learning process.

    Here is my Julian II. It is my understanding that he was the last Roman emperor who did not pay at least lip service to Christianity and worshiped the old gods.

    Julian II Siliqua All.jpg

    A dealer told me that there was a large hoard of high quality siliqua that was stolen in the 19th century. The coins were recovered, and this piece is probably part of the hoard. I have a couple other pieces from that hoard.
     
  8. LukeGob

    LukeGob Well-Known Member

    Nice find. What show was it?
     
  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Are you referring to me or someone else? I see these follow-ups now and then and don’t know the reference.

    I bought that siliqua at the summer FUN show.
     
  10. LukeGob

    LukeGob Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I was referring to the original poster. I'm not great at inter-web etiquette. While we're on it, though, I would appreciate any sharing of any cool coin show anyone knows.
     
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  11. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Oh it was just a local show in my city, mostly for modern coins and bullion, and only one dealer had ancients!
     
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