Morgan's should I send them in for grade ???

Ive not had any of my coins sent in for gradeing. Simply cause I like them doesn't mean they are grade worthy. Thought I'd put a few out , see what you'll think . Thanks

 

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Sorry posted first coin twice

 

The 1889-CC yes for sure although it may not grade because of the rim ding. The 1890...No.

 

The 89-CC is fake. The 90 is an AU coin worth about $20-25.

 

I agree that the 89 CC is clearly counterfeit.

I really hope that you didn't pay much for it, or are able to return it. If genuine, that would be a very expensive coin.

The 90 is EF details, harshly cleaned. It is worth its silver content, $13 or so.

 

That's what I was afraid of. I'm the worst at spotting counterfeits.

 

Looking at the reverse lettering towards the bottom, do you think the 90 might also be counterfeit?

 

how do you know it is fake

 

As reading down the thread, it was my first thought also as I have seen silver plated Chinese Copper core coins that had this coloration. I am more hesitant about the 2nd coin, but likely for the 89-CC. IMO, Jim

 

The most obvious immediate indicator is the overall mushiness of the strike, especially on the obverse. Genuine coins will have a crisp strike.

 

Just look at the obverse, not a single design element is properly struck, everything is kind of “flat”. It’s easy to spot such fakes after a couple of years...

 

In addition, if you look at the high points, you'll see whatever metal it is that had been plating the coin was worn away, and is now exposing some other metal, probably brass.

The 1890 looks OK, but not really worth grading in that condition, $20-$25 is a fair range as it has better details than most circulated morgans.

 

Thanks to all who commented . I couldn't find a 1889 cc vam for out center. Thanks you saved me a lot trouble sending them in for grade.

 

I'm not convinced either that it is OK. I think I see some raised dots on the reverse as well as questioning some of the letter shapes.
Weight and magnetism are easy to check.

 

No

 

No, just blurry. It looks right for what it is.

 

I think the Chinese make the key dates look aged and circulated like that to explain the weakness in strike, Liberty's hair for example on the 89cc, just a theory.

 

They have a brass core. You can see it peeking through on the cheek

 

How do you know it's not wear on a 120-year old coin ?

 

Not worth it.