Morgan Newp via 3 Different Mints

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  1. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    At the ANA show, a friend of mine managed to find and buy an original set of cancelled CC Morgan dollar dies. He later arranged to go to Dan Carr's Moonlight Mint to have a bunch of Morgan dollars overstruck with these dies. Therefore, between the CC mint, Moonlight Mint, and the mint the overstruck coins were originally struck at (Dan can confirm no CC coins were harmed), we have three mints involved. Four if you count Philadelphia, where these dies were made.

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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    What type of cancellation method was used? It is interesting that device details are still visible through the crosses.
     
  4. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I bought one, looks nice.
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These were overstruck on 84P Morgan Dollars. The cancelation wouldn't obliterate the details of the host coin unless the cancelation was raised off of the dies.
     
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  6. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    I have never bought something from Carr, but always admired his work. But this piece struck a chord. I just ordered one too.
     
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  7. Tusky Ranger

    Tusky Ranger Active Member

    Weird :)
     
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  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Two whacks with a cold chisel and a hammer across the die face. The X is deep in the die, and the result is that it doesn't strike out the underlying design.
     
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  9. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Were these dies never used and therefore never properly hardened or did the mint draw them back after use to cancel them?
     
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  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Correct. They were never hardened, never used, then disposed of after being cancelled.
     
  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Why do it, what is the purpose, what do you gain? Interesting post, thank you.
     
  12. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

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  13. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Wow! Interesting story. I still feel that a person with the right skills could fix the dies and maybe even make a few (very few because the pressure would destroy the dies) coins
     
  14. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Mine arrived. Very cool:

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