More Chinese Fakes that I bought online (On purpose)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Moekeever, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I thought I would share photos of a 1793 chain cent and a 1793 strawberry leaf wreath cent. Both are very easy to determine they are fake. Weight of 10.5 grams each, plain edges and aged look to the coin make it very easy to determine they are not the real deal.

    The chain cent seems to be trying to portray an S-2. Nice try but they are getting better all the time.

    The strawberry leaf is a fantasy piece. It does not match either variety known.

    If they start making pieces that copy known dies, faking wear and put these in fake graded holders, someone is going to get hurt financially.

    image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Both of these coins will be destroyed when I have my next bonfire.
     
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  3. paddyman98

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  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I like the that they added porosity to the surfaces but they are easy to spot as fake because of the nice condition. You're right, if they get beaten up to F2-AG3, then they would be a lot more convincing and a lot more worrisome
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    These fakes suck
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

     
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  7. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Why destroy them? They will make good reference pieces and/or show-and-tell pieces.
     
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  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I sure wouldn't waste my dosh on something I was going to destroy. I bought a bunch of large cent fakes from China that are all die struck and would with a bit of wear and toning fool someone. I bought them as study pieces and use them occasionally as pocket pieces to get the feel of what it must have been like to handle them in your pocket 160+ years ago - sure wouldn't dare do that with real ones.
     
  9. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I'm not keeping them for two reasons, 1. I have thousands of real large cents and will be passing them on to my children. 2. I hate fakes. Someone will get ahold of them and try to pass them off as real. I spent less than a McDonalds meal so dosh is not an issue.
     
  10. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I almost forgot this. The same seller had a bunch of early flowing hair silver dollars that sold almost immediately. I sure hope they don't fall into the wrong hands.
     
  11. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

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    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

  13. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Stamp "COPY" into them. There, problem solved.
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Um report the seller?
    Save a step and just burn your wallet instead. You can't buy all of the millions of fakes out there. But your intentions are good.
    By buying the fakes the seller is getting positive reinforcement and will continue to put this junk into the market.
     
  15. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I reported the seller. There might be millions of fakes out there. I'm still going to buy them (large cents) study and photograph them and burn them to make myself feel better. As long as they are only a few bucks, I will give up a Starbucks to get the fakes off the market.
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You seem to be assuming that they'll never make any more.

    The more you buy, the more they'll make. They'd be ecstatic at the thought that people are buying their fakes and destroying them -- because people are buying their fakes, and not even diluting the market by reselling them!
     
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  17. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I guess I could use them as pocket pieces for a few years and then buy a vine and bars stamp to finish the edge out. Cha-Ching!

    These fakes are selling out as fast as they are listed. Won't matter if I'm the buyer or not.

    Also it's not like these fake large cents are flooding the market, very few are listed. For now.
     
  18. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Are you sure burning them are the best option? I mean I would keep them because they would be the only ones I could afford and the only ones I would have in my collection.
     
  19. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member


    The only one I don't have is the strawberry leaf. I have several graded chains.

    The grandkids love the bonfires where we play "how long does it take to melt". I have a long handle steel cup we place coins in to see how long it takes the coins to melt.
     
  20. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Are chain cents expensive to own?
     
  21. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I inherited all them I own but one. It's graded ag-3 and I paid over $1500 15 years ago. So yes they are costly. Estimated around a 1000 remain.
     
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