Hello All, Here is another small group of error coins I wanted to post on here to see if anyone has any comments on the type of error, rarity, value, whether it's worth it to be graded, etc. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated and any discussion is encouraged. NOTE #1: Errors #38-42 all have the same die clash marks. The bottom right example (Error #42) is shown in more detail. NOTE #2: Errors #43-44 both weigh 3.1 grams each. These pieces were found in two separate boxes and have been separated for many years. They appear to be a mated pair. NOTE #3: Error #45 appears to have two cuds at the bottom of the reverse. Now to the coins..... ERRORS #38-42 ERRORS #43-44 ERROR #45 THANK YOU. Tagging: @Seattlite86
For Errors #38-42, here is a quick reference: http://www.maddieclashes.com/adc-100c-1979d-01/ Thank you, enjoy, and any comments/discussion are appreciated.
#43 & #44 I'm not to sure about them being a true mated pair. LIBERTY does not really match up. And the spacing between GOD and WE is too wide. IMHO
@paddyman98 Thank you for the comment. I will say that I never had the coins 100% pressed together in that photo. It's a bit difficult to do that along with taking a picture. Even so, I was a little skeptical if they were a true mated pair as well. I am definitely no expert in mated pairs, but when looking at other examples, such as on Heritage Auctions website, I noticed that there seems to be a bit of spacing where the overlap occurs, albeit very small, but seemingly larger than any normal separation in the details of the coin at that point. One example in particular that I am referring to is at the following link: https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/-19...coin-2-ms65-red-pcgs-total-2/a/131533-25660.s If it would help, I could try to take some more photos of the two coins together, maybe at different angles. Again, I am cautiously optimistic about these being a true mated pair, but if anything, they seem to be pretty close. If you have any advice on what additional photos might help to prove/disprove this as being a mated pair, I would appreciate it. Thank You.
It’s close but hard to say for sure. If these were taken from a single bag and no other specimens were in it then you might have a more definitive case. But a cool example as is. Those are my favorites from the series of photos.
The Indian Cent is a diestate (or "die stage"), not an error. GREAT coin! Same thing as this 1863 Indian.
@John Wright Thank you for your comment and attachment. I suppose I never thought of it from a die-state point of view. I appreciate the comment and wanted to say that the 1863 cent you showed is a beautiful coin.
You might want to check this out: View attachment 1090139 Here’s the link: http://cuds-on-coins.com/indian-head-cent-cuds/ I’m not saying this is the definitive attributions but it’s close.
@StevenHarden could you please change your posting font to what we normally use. In my old age I find trying to read your posts very difficult, even after I clean my glasses. LOL Thanks.
@Danomite Thank you for the reference. Very interesting read and a lot of examples provided. The 1905 example shown seems to pretty closely match the cud I have on the reverse around 4:30, but does not show the second cud on the reverse around 7:30.
Here are some additional photos for Errors #43-44. I'm still cautiously optimistic that these are a mated pair. Any comments or discussion is greatly appreciated: THANK YOU. P.S.: I'm working on another lot of errors to post in a separate thread.
Love the 1981 cent. I HIGHLY recommend you do NOT send that in for certification. Error collectors like myself, and many others I know, STRONGLY prefer this set of errors to be left loose. As far as If it is a true mated pair or merely a matching pair, it would have to be examined more closely. ~Joe C.
The Indian cent actually is a Mint error AND a Die STAGE. (It's actually a "die stage error.") It is not a "die STATE." Die state and die stage are two separate things. Die STAGE is damage done to the die after the start of the first planchet struck. A cud, a die clash, die cracks, die chips, split dies, gouges from debris being struck in the chamber, etc. Cuds could be the result of defective dies that become compromised as dozens of tons of pressure with each strike. Die STATE is the level of wear on the die faces as the striking process moves forward. A sharp strike with clearly defined designs is an early die state. As a die strikes thousands of planchets, the designs aren't as sharp. It runs as early, middle, and late die state for coins.
