Mixed Lot of Errors #8 - Comments?

Hello All,

Here is another small group of error coins I wanted to post on here to see if anyone has any comments on the type of error, rarity, value, whether it's worth it to be graded, etc. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated and any discussion is encouraged.

Now to the coins.....
ERROR #35



ERROR #36




ERROR #37




THANK YOU.

 

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In the future, I recommend you tag @paddyman98 @furryfrog02 @cpm9ball They probably have the best knowledge on what errors like this might go for.

 

1st coin looks like a die clash. Wait for @paddyman98 response.

 

I agree with spirityoda, the first one looks like a die clash, but with out seeing it in hand, I can't be sure.
The second appears to be a minor clip, and as such, it will probably have minor value.
The third appears to be a strike-through, a strike through....something....unknown.

However, I am neither an expert nor even a specialist. The names mentioned above, plus @Fred Weinberg, would be the specialists to consult.

In my please-don't-quote-me opinion, the die clash, if genuine, would have the highest value of the three, followed by the strike-through, followed by the minor clip.

You could research completed/sold listings on eBay to get a possible range of values for them.

The members mentioned above might also offer you some ideas on value.

Good Luck and Thanks for posting.

 

@Hookman Thank you for the comments.

Please note that the 1c and 10c pieces are PROOF pieces and are much more rarely found with errors. Even though these may be minor errors, the fact that they are PROOF pieces should warrant a higher value than their mint state counterpart errors. On the 1c piece, if you look on both sides of Lincoln's head, you'll see the reverse image columns from the Lincoln Memorial. You can even see the horizontal line from the steps and part of the top of the building when looking at the horizontal line coming out of the chest and the other in front of the eye.

Thank you again for your comments and I hope others will be able to provide their input as well.

 

@Seattlite86
You should see all his other threads.. Amazing mint errors! I have been responding to them

 

#35 Clashed Dies aka Prisoner Cent.. Yes for attribution
#36 Incomplete Planchet (Clipped).. Yes for attribution
#37 Interesting.. Maybe Struck through issue.. Yes for attribution

 

I never recommend doing that. Not a reliable source for values.

 

Mr. P. and @Fred Weinberg have much more knowledge about value and rarity than I do.

The 80-S Proof Lincoln is very cool, but I'm not so sure about the Kennedy being a strikethrough. If that were the case, why is the same position on the reverse so weakly struck? ~ Chris

 

I think the 1966 KHD is a Defective Planchet issue. Edge photo would interesting to see.

 

I'll go take a look! I love errors, but have been mainly lurking in world coins.

 

Very nice die clash proof penny (#35)

 

Key word Paddy : "Possible" It's certainly not the final say on value. As I pointed out, you guys have opinions also, which are much more experienced.

 

Thank you all for the comments, they are all very much appreciated and any further discussion is encouraged. I was pretty sure #35 was a clashed die error and #36 was a clip error, but I wonder how the value is different on these as proof coins. As for #36, I will try to get some different photos from the edge to show the area more and hopefully be able to identify that error.

 

Here are some additional photos for Error #36






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The Kennedy could be a lamination that came off before strike possibly after being punched out of the sheet.

 

Looking more and more like some sort of vise job. It looks like it has been squeezed from both sides rather than struck though on one.

But don't quote me, I'm mostly just an onlooker.......or maybe an "unpaid assistant".......or maybe a "coin collector in training?".

lolol

 

The narrowing of the rim on both sides would lead me to believe this is a vise job, but I am still not sure. It looks very similar to other strike-through errors I have seen as a result of a large foreign object. Although, I still don't understand why the reverse would have such a smooth area in the same region. Hopefully someone will be able to identify this.

Also, I am getting together another lot of errors to post in a separate thread.

 

The lack of a detailed strike on that area of the reverse, would be expected if there wasn't enough metal on the opposite side to give enough resistance to force metal into the devices.

I have seen similar laminations where when the rollers are sizing the thickness of the sheet, they will push up metal in front of the rollers. If the metal pushes up high enough, the rollers will fold it over and roll the foldover down into the sheet creating a lamination. I believe that the connecting metal holding the lamination to the sheet, was cut when the blank was cut from the sheet.

If the area of the rim were to be squeezed between, a vice or pliers, the metal from that low spot would push the rim out and the coin would no longer be perfectly round. Coins aren't made of hollow metal. Any metal not where it should be had to be removed before or after the strike. Has the coin been weighed?

 

@ Hommer Thank you for your comments.

I understand where you are coming from on the potential cause of this error. I have weighed the coin and I get a weight of 11.4 grams with one scale and 11.3 grams with another scale, both below the Red Book weight of 11.50 grams. Depending on the accuracy and errors of the scales I have, which both have a graduation of 0.1 grams, there could be a little variation. In either case, it appears the overall weight of the coin is less than the Red Book reported standard of 11.50 grams. That would lead me to believe that metal was removed prior to the strike as you were suggesting. If this was the case, how might this type of error be labelled?