Mixed Lot of Errors #7 - Comments?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by StevenHarden, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Hello All,

    Here is another small group of error coins I wanted to post on here to see if anyone has any comments on the type of error, rarity, value, whether it's worth it to be graded, etc. As always, any comments are greatly appreciated and any discussion is encouraged.

    Now to the coins.....
    ERROR #32
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    ERROR #33
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    ERROR #34
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    Error34b.jpg

    THANK YOU.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Neat stuff.

    I'm no error specialist, but here are my comments:

    Interesting that the piece of foreign debris from the strikethrough on the British coin remains, and didn't get lost when it detached. Error on a gold coin? Yeah, you bet it's worth getting certified.

    Gold + Error = Nice To Have. ;)

    I'm unfamiliar with what kind of off-center strike that nickel is- never seen one with that oddly beveled/shifted appearance. It's rather dramatic, and nice as such. I suspect it is a relatively modern nickel from the '90s or later, just guessing from the engraving style of the portrait.

    The 1951 cent is really neat- lucky that you actually got most of the date on the flan, there. Just a smidgen further off center, and it would have been a mystery! The hint of pinkish color is icing on the cake. It's also refreshing to see an o/c cent that's not a Memorial, but a Wheatie.​
     
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  4. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the comments @lordmarcovan

    Error #32 (the gold piece) was originally sealed in an individual plastic holder that came from the Royal Mint. These gold Britannia coins are what I consider the bullion equivalent for Great Britain as to what Gold American Eagles are for the United States. They come in perforated sheets from the Royal Mint in what I believe are 20-piece sheets. The plastic on these are notorious to fall apart, so most dealers I know take them out of the plastic and put the coins into tubes. This was discovered in one of those tubes as I was pulling together an order for another dealer. As I was going piece by piece to ensure quality, I turned the coin over and saw something fall off the coin (the foreign debris). So, I mounted it and the struck-through coin as shown.

    Error #33 (the nickel) is a bit of a mystery to me as well. I have many off-center pieces, but only a few with an unusual appearance even close to this. It still weights 5.0 grams, so the weight is correct for a nickel planchet. I hope someone that understand these types of errors can chime in.

    Error #34 (the wheat cent) is, like you said, close to becoming a no-date piece. I do also get tired of seeing so many off-center Memorial cents, and really enjoy these type. As you mentioned, the toning is nice to see.
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    The gold piece is a lamination error of some type. Personally, I would send it in to be graded after all the Coronavirus business calms down a bit. That said, when you send it in I wouldn't include extra piece at all as I don't think it would help your case one bit. The nickel and the cent piece, although they're cool to own, I wouldn't send them in for a grade at all. It's clear enough that they're errors but I doubt they would bring you much money as neither has a complete date. Just so I'm clear, I don't collect errors at all, so wait to hear from someone who knows more than I do! good luck! :D
     
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  6. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the comments @fretboard

    I agree with you about waiting to send anything in until this Coronavirus matter is over with (who knows how long that will be). I had actually gotten 3 notification emails from PCGS this week:
    Tuesday (3/17/2020) - PCGS U.S. Office Temporary Closure
    Wednesday (3/18/2020) - UPDATE: PCGS U.S. Office Reopening
    Friday (3/20/2020) - PCGS California Office Closed

    So, with all the the back and forth, I am going to hold off on sending anything out to any of the grading companies until this clears up (again, who knows how long that will be).
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I'd have said the gold coin was a lamination error as well (at least until I saw the back of the Queen's hairdo), but given that he's got the actual piece of debris to accompany it, it's pretty obviously a strikethrough instead.
     
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  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Your Nickel error looks like it was struck with a broken obverse die. This is the only way that I can think of that the middle of the coin would be an edge.
    If this is true I would think it will be a very scarce/rare type of error.
     
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  9. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    If you know what the error is, I don't see a point in having them certified. Unless you plan to sell them, of course.
     
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  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The nickel is lovely. It's an off-center strike from an obverse (hammer) die with a 50% cud.
     
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  11. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @JCro57 I do intend on selling all of the errors I have posted on here at some point, but I am looking for more information on them before having them certified. I know that some errors are definitely not worth spending the money to have them graded, but others with multiple errors, more expensive types, or just unusual pieces, may need to be attributed by a third party grading company. Before I would sell anything, I would want to make sure the item is the real deal.
     
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  12. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @mikediamond Thank you for the comment. Have you seen this type of error before? Also, wouldn’t a 50% cud mean that half of the die was broken off?
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The answer to both of your questions is "yes".
     
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  14. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    Any thoughts on the rarity of a piece like this and any estimate of value based on what you’ve seen?
     
  15. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    They are quite rare and I would estimate its value in the $400 - $500 range. Of course, with the economy in collapse and disposable income disappearing, I would expect prices to drop precipitously in the coming weeks and months.
     
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  16. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    @mikediamond Thank you for the comment.

    I agree that the effects of the economy will result in a drop in disposable income. Depending on how long this lasts and to what extent businesses are closed and people are out of work, this could be just the beginning. Also, hopefully this will not turn into a recurring situation in the future, but that is up to society. For now, I am just trying to get everything organized and figured out for some point in the future when I am ready to sell. For now I am in a position where I am lucky enough to not need to sell.
     
  17. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yes, a gold strike thru error, great find! :D
     
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  18. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    I was a little skeptical of your call for the gold piece being a lamination error at first. Considering I actually saw the foreign debris fall of the coin, I was pretty sure it was a strike-through. Without retaining the foreign debris it can sometimes be hard to distinguish between the two.
     
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  19. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Ahhhhh. Gotcha.

    Well, i must say, you have done well. Every coin for all your posts are beautiful and genuine.

    What a great eye!
     
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  20. StevenHarden

    StevenHarden Well-Known Member

    I appreciate the comment @JCro57

    I still have a lot of others to continue posting on here. I do have a lot of "junk" stuff too, but I'm trying to keep that stuff off of here. I may inadvertently post a piece that I believe to be an error, but is actually post-mint manipulation, but I hope the members on here will point it out.

    I hope to get another lot posted on here soon, maybe a little later tonight. Thank you again.
     
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