Mixed lot of 300 coins - results

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I recently obtained a mixed lot of 300 ancient coins at an average cost of $0.89 per coin. Advertised as Roman, that was mostly true except for about 3 non-Roman coins.

    Out of 300 coins:
    55 were very low grade culls - absolutely no detail, metal slugs. 4 were melted together.
    76 were low grade - just enough detail to say that "yes, this is a coin"
    67 were medium grade - enough detail to see a bust and reverse motif, but not enough for a positive ID
    13 were Byzantine, in mostly unidentifiable condition

    80 were better grade - fully identifiable

    Out of the better grade coins, the following 20 emperors were represented (in alpha order)
    Antoninus Pius
    Arcadius
    Aurelian
    Caracalla
    Claudius II Gothicus
    Commodus
    Constans
    Constantine I
    Constantine II
    Constantine Commemorative
    Constantius II
    Constantius Gallus
    Elagabalus
    Gallienus
    Gordian III
    Honorius
    Julian
    Licinius I
    Licinius II
    Maximian
    Valens
    Valentinian I

    Non-Roman coins included:
    Seleucid
    Greek/Provincial
    Celtic (?)

    Out of those 20 emperors, there were 4 that I did not already have: Commodus, Honorius, Licinius II, Maximian

    Highlights were:
    Commodus RIC 253.JPG
    Commodus Denarius, RIC 253
    Elagabalus Varbanov 1426.JPG
    Elagabalus Varbanov 1426

    Greek dichalkon.JPG
    Tiny Greek dichalkon

    Selucid.JPG
    Tiny Seleucid elephant

    Licinius I fake.JPG
    Fake Licinius I

    IMG_E4892.JPG
    Antoninus Pius

    IMG_E4894.JPG
    Caracalla provincial issue of Nikopolis

    IMG_E4898.JPG
    Gordian III

    IMG_E4896.JPG
    Constans with goofy portrait
    IMG_E4900.JPG
    Arcadius, front facing portrait. Too bad about the break.
     
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  3. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Very nice, you will spend a lot of (fun) time fully identifying them all! What are you planning to do with the slugs?
     
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  4. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    @hotwheelsearl you have more patience than I do that's for sure. I tried this path once and picked up 40 coins for about $40. It was fun to clean them up a bit and try to identify, but in the end I'd rather take the same money and probably get 1 or 2 Fine coins with more detail. Who knows though, you may end up with something very hard to find in the end. :)
     
  5. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    That’s a great acquisition, @hotwheelsearl ! Attributing those that you’re unsure of, is going to be a fun, educational, painful, but rewarding experience! :happy::joyful::smuggrin::cool::D


     
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  6. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Deacon Ray, After spending some time with the hoard, do you think it was a good value o_O? These coins seem out of your realm of collecting...
     
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  7. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    You are right @Al Kowsky , not a good deal.
    At around $3.30 each for the 80 identified coins, not in very good condition.
    The seller came out on top here but, knowledge was gained through the identification process so not a complete loss.
    I am sure @hotwheelsearl wont be going down this road again in the near future.
    Thanks for posting your experience @hotwheelsearl, save your money for now or do as another suggested and buy a couple of nice examples.
     
  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I can generally resell the slugs for a minimal amount (there's a buyer for EVERYTHING)

    However, I failed to break even this time.

    The most expensive coins were probably the Elagabalus and the Commodus, at maybe $20 each. However, that still doesn't make up for the rest of the cost!

    Overall, a fun experience. Kept me busy for a few days at least
     
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  9. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    How did you know it was Elagabalus? And a few other pics seem impossible to identify b/c of lack of words, the Antonious Pius one. These kinds of transactions are usually better for the seller. However, once in a while you'll score. Some say never to clean, but I got a handful of uncleaned coins and there was a Alexander II (Syria) drachm that looked like just an encrusted bronze at first. I also was able to save some terrible looking Roman Imperials
     
  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I was able to identify the Elagabalus by combination of the portrait style (which could have easily been Alexander Severus or another boy emperor) with the serpent tripod reverse.

    Enough of the reverse legend existed for me to conclusively ID it as Markianopolis, and the rest of the details came together.

    For the Antoninus Pius, there's really only one option for that particular portrait, which is pretty distinctive for me. I was able to match the reverse conclusively to an example on Wildwinds, a Moushmov 5085.

    The Caracalla Nikopolis provincial was a real toughie, and I'm still not 100% on the identification as Varbanov 2980. I spend a couple hours scouring every possible option for a Nikopolis grape cluster reverse and the best match was a young Caracalla.
     
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  11. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    Thanks for responding. Good to know that I'm not the only one who spends a lot of time trying to identify a coin! It's fun to say the least, especially when you make some headway and know you'll get an answer soon.
     
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  12. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Do you still have your eye site?
     
  13. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Honestly, my eyes were starting to hurt after a while. Most of those coins were tiny AE4s, 17mm or less. It was pretty tough trying to tease out the tiny text.
    Also, my neck got pretty sore too.

    I had to draw this out over four or five sessions to preserve my health!
     
  14. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    I salute you my friend.
     
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