Missing e and trust and last # on date and mint mark loos like Denver

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by silvergmj, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. silvergmj

    silvergmj New Member

    Help someone! Also thank you for GDJMSP for helping me on the pictures to post. I enjoy hearing from some other's that are knowledgeable In the field of Numismatics, as my Coin Dealer told me to always ask questions even IIf you may think they are dumb to yourself,and to research as much as you can. I have been doing this for around 40 yrs. on and off I hunted Arrowheads for about 25 yrs. now It Is too hard to find any places to go and the ones that I use to hunt are now developed,up and down the Tenn. River In Marshall county Al. and all north Al. Thank you
     

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  3. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    You're absolutely right. He who asks is a fool for five minutes, he who doesn't is a fool forever. As for the coin, it appears to be a filled die error, possibly along with a slight misaligned die. Filled die errors are caused by grease getting caught in the designs on the coinage die, hardening, and then when the coin is struck, part of the design is absent as a result. As for the misaligned die, that's caused when one of the coining dies moves slightly from it's normal position, and causes the coin to appear off-center, but in reality, just the obverse (or reverse in certain coins) is off. If I am correct, than I am sorry to say that your coin is probably not worth a lot. Maybe 50 cents. Still, it's a very interesting coin, and an error nonetheless, and I would certainly keep it. Remember, the value is not all that important, and collecting and keeping what you like is the cornerstone of the roll searching hobby. Not to mention, I could easily be mistaken. It's best to wait for some of the more seasoned error guys on here to give their opinion.
     
  4. johndo

    johndo New Member

    I found one simular to yours and I was told that is is a grease filled die as TBH eluded to.
    oops wrong pic
    John
     

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  5. silvergmj

    silvergmj New Member

    clogged grease missing e& trust & 0?

    Anyway, thank's for your reply. I have been hunting error coins for quit some time now and have experienced grease tracks left on coins as the last one the Wyoming quarter, and I can say that the coin that I have surely does not look anything like that at all. I also discussed It with some other collectors, reputable as they are, also agree, that this does not look anything as that. So next In line Is Ken Potter. So everyone has there own opinion, amd there's may be the one that Is right. But I should think I would like to have more than one opinion, and not that there's Is not a good one. I like to sometimes be more optimistic, so what can It hurt, a few dollars to spend, you cannot take It with you anyway.:mouth:
     
  6. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    Well, I think you're thinking of when the soft grease gets struck through and caused a sort of shiny/grainy appearance on the surface. It seems quite common on the 2007 nickels and Idaho quarters. I have encountered numerous, and spent them as I have little interest in those. The sort of thing that occurs on a coin like yours is entirely different. On coins with missing design features, it is usually caused by grease getting into the lettering and designs on the coin, hardening, and then causing said letters or design elements to appear weak. I have several that I have found myself. They are quite interesting, but not all that uncommon. Of course, there are a few other things it could possibly be, but you must look at it from my perspective. I adhere to Occam's razor (not sure of the spelling), which tells me that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Of course, I hope the theory does not apply here, and your coin is more than I think it is. A second opinion never hurts! Well, without writing you another book, I'd like to say good luck, and keep up with the finds!
     
  7. silvergmj

    silvergmj New Member

    Thank you BigH I hope that there Is another reason too. But our sound's feasible,But the thing I also forgot to mention. That on the back of the memorial next to the last column there Is what look's like another column leaning against the third one also. So what kind of dilemma could that be with the coin that was mentioned? But you mentioned that the letters on some were weak, these are completly not there at all. I really do thank you for your help though, and advice. silvergmj
     
  8. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    If the reverse shows what looks like a partially fallen column, that is probably the result of a die clash. That happens when there isn't a planchet in between the two dies, and they strike each other, transferring a design portion to either side. In other words, the obverse will show the Lincoln Memorial upside down (unless the dies are not oriented correctly), and the reverse will show Lincoln upside down. Those are sometimes called 'prisoner cents' because Lincoln looks like he is behind bars.
     
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