Misprinted $50 Serial Number on back?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by dennybenny, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. dennybenny

    dennybenny New Member

    I need to know what these are worth if anyone can please tell me. The serial number and seal are on the back of the bills. I havent been able to find out anything about them.
     

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  3. chip

    chip Novice collector

    Those are nice finds, I would definitely keep em.
     
  4. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    If those are genuine errors you'll be looking at some major $$$ for sure. Where'd you get them from, a bank?
     
  5. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    :thumb: That sure is interesting.
     
  6. dennybenny

    dennybenny New Member

    They belong to a friend of mine. He doesnt have a computer so he asked some coin dealer and he told him they were worth $35 apiece so i told him i would do some research for him. Any info on them would be greatly appreciated.
     
  7. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    WHAT?! I have some questions here. there are six total? And all the serial #s are identical? Fishy, I think. I doubt they are real. to find six together would defy all probability.


     
  8. dennybenny

    dennybenny New Member


    Not sure either.... that's why I am here.
     
  9. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Please post scans of the face and back of the notes. The images are too small and too far away to really see the notes.
     
  10. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    DO all of the #s match exactly on all 6 notes? I can only make out the final 4 but they match... are there tiny little red and blue fibers in the paper? are the watermarks and other security features there as they should be? What is the series date? And lastly, but MOST importantly, please post a clear, close pic of each or at least one individually. Both sides, please. That will better help my opinion. Welcome to my other home, this forum, and if I sounded excited at first it's because that's exactly how I feel about our hobby! :)


     
  11. 5dollarEdunote

    5dollarEdunote Coin Connoisseur

    They look kind of fishy...
     
  12. tbudwiser

    tbudwiser Active Member

    They could just be from an uncut sheet but ending with the same serial number... Maybe? +1 on silentnviolent's comment. Check for security features and get back to us. I have high doubts as to if these are real or not.

    -tbud
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Please scan the notes and post the scans. Your photos are not very clear. It looks like they all have the same serial number.
    Very interesting situation.
     
  14. krispy

    krispy krispy

    A dealer offered $35 each for $50 notes? What??? Never talk to that dealer again and post scans of each side of each note. The photo is no good to see the details of these notes to judge their authenticity. Also, until you know whether they are authentic or not, keep them in currency sleeves and OFF THE FLOOR!

    Now, no one in the Paper Money forum likes me when error notes appear because there a half dozen or so every week that pop up... and every time I tell these posters (usually brand new to paper money, collecting it and new to the forums) that they must have the notes reviewed by a TPG such as PCGS Currency or PMG, because no one on these boards and certainly not with the images presented, can tell you whether they are authentic or not... as well error notes are faked all the time, achieved easily with digital printers using authentic notes. Because there are so many fakes, real error notes must be authenticated to stand any chance of actual market value for real collectors to put down money and their interest in such notes.

    They certainly may end up be authentic, but we will not know until you take the time to learn about error notes and seek the services of a grading company to authenticate them.
     
  15. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Here is not where you come for anything other than a redirect to PCGS Currency and PMG to learn about submiting notes for review and authentication services.
     
  16. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    +1

     
  17. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    I dunno...here might be a good place to get advice like "those are obviously fake; don't waste your money getting them certified" or "those look pretty good, but you might still want to get them certified if you plan to sell them on Ebay". See, unlike the TPGs, we don't charge for giving our opinions, so we're a better place for a relative newbie to come first. Some questions are easy enough that even we can answer them...and one such question might be "Is this worth sending to a TPG?". :rolleyes:

    I do agree, though, that we're not going to be able to give much useful advice on the basis of these small images. If all the notes do in fact have the same serial number, then they pretty well have to be fakes. But I can't tell from the images whether they all have the same number or not.

    An error like this would have to affect an entire sheet, and all the notes on the sheet would have serials ending in the same five digits. But then in order to get six notes from the same sheet, you'd need to have more than 500,000 consecutive $50's to unwrap...so unless this "friend" of the OP works in a pretty big bank vault, I'm not too optimistic about these being real. :(
     
  18. tbudwiser

    tbudwiser Active Member

    +1, here is a good place to get the ball either rolling or popped. I'm beginning to think that the was never even inflated in the first place....

     
  19. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I guess it's just me and my approach but forums are not where I would ever turn for research. Trusting what people say in online forums is as random as trusting a stranger walking down the street whom you may ask the same question(s) of and trust the first thing that rolls out of their mouths. Often the first half dozen responses cast no such doubt on these topics and instead extend the "hey those are keepers" or "your rich" type comments that misinform rather than inform. Even those collectors on forums who ought to know better than to give such advice do so with little regard. As I said, these threads are more often than not, by OPs who are new to it all and find their ways to active forums to solicit others advice, without even learning, in their haste to discover if they have found a rarity worth a little bank, whether or not the answers are already on said forums. All too often forums are more a place of lazy questioning by those who don't or worse won't do their own due diligence on a given subject and furthermore expect others to do it for them on the thinnest of evidence presented. :yes:

    How often too might these "newbies" disappear quickly after a body of collectors appears to accept or reject such an error is real or not... that is with the frequency of the error note questions, I have to wonder how many of these threads may be started by those who created the fake notes themselves and came here looking to see what passes as real or not on a quick review by passing forum members. Not saying they are all fraudsters nor that this one is either. It's just something that crosses my mind in these threads.
     
  20. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    I guess it depends on whether you're thinking of it as "research", or thinking of it as "a question". Yes, random Internet forums are probably a step or two below Wikipedia on the research scale :rolleyes: , but they're still not a bad place to get a rough idea of what you've got when you're starting with no idea at all.

    Too often, when I was new to collecting, my questions were met with answers like "go buy this $75 book if you want that information". Nowadays the equivalent seems to be "go pay $30 to this TPG if you want to know whether that note is real". Sure, big thick reference books are useful, and TPGs are useful, and if you stick around the collecting hobby for long you'll probably have plenty of dealings with both. But if we want any newbies to stick around, we'd do well not to leave them with the impression that it costs tens of dollars to get a simple question answered. We all had lots of simple questions when we were new, and I can't be the only one who would've gone broke at those rates. :eek:

    Whether or not any of the fakers post in these forums, they're surely free to read them. I don't see that as a reason not to share what information we have. By that sort of logic, nobody should ever publish a numismatic book or article, lest they help the fraudsters develop better frauds.

    I don't think any of the world's leading experts on currency post on this forum (though I could be wrong, given the anonymity of the Internet). Still, there's enough knowledge here that we can help to answer plenty of questions from the general public. We may as well be kind enough to do so, when the general public happens to drop by.... When these newbies start asking questions that nobody here can begin to answer, then we'll *have* to send them to the experts. And that's when we'll know they're not newbies any more. :cool:
     
  21. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Hi, dennybenny. I hope you haven't been scared off by some of the conversation here.
    Some of us are very interested in your friend's notes and would like to see better
    images of them. Some of us are willing to help. We can't make the final decision
    on authenticity, but we might be able to steer you in the right direction.
     
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