Minnesota state quarter with all kinds of problems

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Sage Coin Nerd, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. Sage Coin Nerd

    Sage Coin Nerd New Member

    I found this Minnesota quarter in my spare change jar. At first I was excited because it was a Minnesota which meant I might find that elusive "extra tree" I keep reading about. Then I looked at it and found all this weird stuff going on with it. I'm new to collecting so I'm not sure what's actually going on with this quarter and taking pictures that show what I see with my lense is hard. Here's what I've got so far-
    Minn Quar Front.JPG Minn Quar Front 2.JPG
    The "blob" thing on the right side looks like some kind of resin or something. It's a clear amber color and there looks like there's melted metal in it. It's stuck to the quarter and is very hard. The quarter is also obviously misshapen.
    Minn Quar Side 3.JPG Minn Quar Side.JPG
    So then I took pictures from the side. Sorry they are blurry but I think they pretty much show what I'm seeing. I'm not even sure what to say about this one.
    Minn Quar Front-Side.JPG
    I just took this one to show the front of the quarter but you can also see the separation between the layers. Can anyone tell me what's going on with this quarter? Is it cool to anyone but me?

    Thanks everyone! You are all really great here!
     
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  3. Snowman

    Snowman Senior Member

    1st..it looks like the quarter was sitting in something acidic (baseic) like a swimming pool or coin fountain... because the copper core is worn down in the center, Plus the quarter took a nasty hit on the side and split probably being thrown against a wall with the coppper core eaten away making it weak. With the amber stuff ..i dont know .....
     
  4. coincollect73

    coincollect73 New Member

    I really don't know what to think at first glance. I agree with snowman that the copper being eaten away means it has been sitting somewhere it shouldn't, but I can't really tell what is going on in your first two pairs of pictures. If you could tell us where this (it appears to be an indent on the rim?) in the 2nd pair of pictures is happening. Is it on the same side as this strange mark in the first couple photos? And does the triangular shaped mark in the first pair of pictures look like extra metal indented into the coin, or has some been carved away? It would help if you could get slighly closer pictures, although you might be limited by camera equipment.

    One last thought: could that be glue on the reverse?
     
  5. Sage Coin Nerd

    Sage Coin Nerd New Member

    I am trying to take different pictures but so far I haven't been able to the ones that show what it is I am about to try and explain. To coincollect73- While I was carrying the coin in my pocket, that little blob thing fell off the coin. I was able to find the piece in my pocket and since it isn't connected to the coin anymore, I can inspect it a little more closely. It could be glue, but it really doesn't look or feel like it. I still think it's more like resin; clear/amber and somewhat brittle. The melted metal in it doesn't appear to be missing from the coin but more like "extra" metal, or something. The part underneath the blob is smooth and shiny. And if you look back at the first set of two pictures, those areas that look dull and hazy, seem to be just a little layer higher than the shiny places. Maybe at one time, there were more little blobs all over? As far as the "indent"'s location, if looking at the reverse, the indent is at about 10:15ish while the blob is at 8:30ish (if that makes any sense).

    If the coin had been sitting in something corrorsive, wouldn't the silver parts show some kind of wear as well? I don't think the pictures show the copper having been eaten away. The silver top and bottom layers look like they are pealing away from the copper core. Other than the above issues, the coin itself seems to be in very good condition as far as wear is concerned.

    I will keep working on the pictures, are there any more suggestions? I appreciate the feedback :)
     
  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    It looks like someone has taken this coin apart and did a extremely sloppy job at trying to put it back together. I think someone has just been playing around and experimenting with it.

    I absolutely hate those two headed and two tailed coins that someone is making and selling on Ebay. this should be against the law even though he is telling everyone he is making them. I saw just a few days ago where another seller had two of them for sale and listed them as errors and one sold for over 200.00

    another thing is what is going to happen if someone did actually find a real one ? then how could they know it wasn't one of the homemade jobs ?
     
  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    What is the DDR for this extra tree error on the minnesota quarter 2005-P

    Does anyone know the DDR for this error A006 - 20121215_131016 (2).jpg A007 - 20121215_131234 (2).jpg :rollling: :rollling:
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Are you referring to the vertical mark between the 2nd and 3rd trees from the left? Is it raised or recessed? The CPG lists 7 DDR's for the Philly and 2 DDR's for the Denver, but this isn't one of them.

    Chris
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    yes, i don't think its a cud error, and it is recessed in the field too ! maybe i should send it in for slabbing, not sure !
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If it is recessed, then it is just a gouge from circulation and is not worth submitting.

    Also, a cud is a die break that originates along the rim and extends into the field. Any other die break in the interior area of a coin would be just that.....a die break.

    Chris
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    could it be a something like this 1983 Lincoln cent A005 - 20121217_090856 (2).jpg A002 - 20121217_090606 (2).jpg :yes:
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    A012 - 20121224_205458 (2).jpg do you think this is a proof die lincoln cent, the year is 1916 ! I've been studying the lower lip, and it looks like a proof ! heres one more picture of the lower lip ! A002 - 20121224_204812 (3).jpg :)
     
  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :yes:2005-PDS Minnesota state quarter has 70+ die varieties known.99.9% are Gem Bu .
    but one found in circulation there so many thing that could have been done to this 1.but if you think its worth spend a few dollars to have a Expert look and explain in detail what the error or Post mint damage is here 1 link + just Google John Wexler he has a site also + will also help but its not free
    :yes:

    http://koinpro.tripod.com/
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    i checked johns site, and mr. potters site too ! no sign of it anywhere ! i've done some things with mr potter, like this one A001 - 20121128_062519 (2).jpg
     
  15. Morgancoin

    Morgancoin New Member

    The first two pictures of the dent look like PMD to me.
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    are we talking about the Minnesota error !
     
  17. Morgancoin

    Morgancoin New Member


    If you were asking me, then yes, I was replying to the Minnesota Quarter.
     
  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I've been trying to find out if this would be an extra tree error, can't find any pictures to match this error up with A007 - 20121215_131234 (2).jpg
     
  19. Morgancoin

    Morgancoin New Member

    Sorry, posted same thing twice. Computer's messing up on me.
     
  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    do you know anything about this error, could it be a extra tree A007 - 20121215_131234 (2).jpg
     
  21. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I am so lost in this thread...:desk:
     
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