mexican gold? need help...

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by swish513, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    i have what appears to be a gold coin from mexico, however, i don't know anything about it other than my dad purchased it in mexico in 1967. i know there was a boon of fake/replica coins available then, so i think this one may fall into that category. it's 10.5 mm, and sadly i don't have a scale to weigh it. also, the edge is reeded. any info about it would be great. :smile

    mexican gold.jpg
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Since it doesn't carry a denomination, it is not a coin. And since it has a 2 year date, it is either a private commemorative or a fake. Ugliest eagle I have seen.
     
  4. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    so roman coins aren't coins? what about medieval english coins? or crusader coins?

    not saying this particular coin/token is or is not a coin, but your first sentence really bothers me.
     
  5. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    That kinda looks like Latin to me, what makes you think it's Mexican?
     
  6. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Does not look authentic, but...


    Mexican Real [Wikipedia]

    Empire of Iturbide

    And another type of 8 Escudos: Augustin Iturbide

    Even as a medal or token, it looks rather crude and so may not be authentic. Perhaps the info above may be of some help in regards to what this piece is supposed to be.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    But the specific question and answer referred to your specific item, "gold, from Mexico" ? I am sorry if I inadvertently bothered you, but I wasn't referring to an ancient coin or any of the others you cite, as the date 1822-23 is not ancient, and I know of no goldish" coin from Mexico, even those from Spain design, that do not have a denomination on it, thus my remark.

    Krispy, I did look at each of the coins of 1822 and 1823, in my Guide book of Mexican coins by Buttrey and Hubbard, and none are dated 1822-1823, none lack a denominator , and none have an eagle with wings at that angle. I doubt the fineness of the gold also, but that can not be determined from a photo.


     
  8. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    i misunderstood you jim. i apologize. i should not have gone off like that. thank you for your help. and krispy, thank you for your help as well.
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    No Problem :)

    Jim
     
  10. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

  11. whstler

    whstler New Member

    I think this is not a Mexican coin, sorry.

    I checked out my books of coins from Mexico, and I was very surprised to see that they acually did have at least one coin that had that kind of eagle. That is not the regular Mexico (Aztec) eagle, and I was sure that alone would prove this is not a coin from Mexico. However, I am pleased to report that indeed Mexico did use an eagle with outspread wings like that on a coin from 1822 (but not from 1823).

    However, as desertgem mentioned, Mexico currency coins always have the denomination on them, often abreviated such as "8 R" for eight reales.

    Below is a scan of a page from one of my Mexico books, the book of which carries no copyright notice, probably because it is a catalog. It shows an eagle similar to yours with outspread wings, and the more common Aztec/Mexican eagle.

    pg 24 catálogo.jpg
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, but lest someone become confused by your post it is important to note that the coin in the OP's post is NOT the coin in your book. There is no such coin as the one posted by the OP.
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    US bicentennial coins (quarters, halves and dollars) had two dates (1776 and 1976)! Private commemoratives? Fakes?
     
  14. whstler

    whstler New Member

    Yes, right. I guess I didn't explain things very well. That was my point, or at least I meant it to be. Thank you for clarifying.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I knew what ya meant Dave, but I had to read it 3 or 4 times first. So I figured if I was confused then others might be too. Thus my post ;)
     
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