Maximinus II Daza follis -- Sol's head on a platter edition

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    A new acquisition:

    Maximinus II Daza GENIO AVGVSTI follis.jpg
    Maximinus II Daza, AD 309-313, as Augustus
    Roman Æ follis;21 mm, 4.88 g, 12 h
    Antioch, AD 312
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head, right
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; *|Z //ANT
    Refs: RIC 164b; Cohen 21; RCV 14840

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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A very interesting reverse.

    Here is mine, a coin of Hadrian.Eternity holding the heads of Sol and Luna.


    Hadrian, AR Denarius AD 135
    (18.15 mm 3.39 g)
    Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG
    Laur. bust of Hadrian right with light drapery on far shoulder
    Rev: AET AVG (in field) P M TR P COS DES III
    Aeternitas standing left holding heads of Sol and Luna
    Sear 3458 Ric 48

    hadrian ric 48.jpg
     
  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Whoah, for a moment there I thought I was looking at my own coin! Same issue and general appearance... right down to the little area of flatness on the torso of Genius.
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  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    You are making it hard for me to resist acquiring a Sol to go with my Serapis... :banghead:

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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have a couple.

    Maximinus II Daia - Follis


    Obv:– IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys at waist, left hand holding cornucopiae and right hand holding head of Sol
    Minted in Antioch (* | E/D / ANT). A.D. 312
    Reference(s) – RIC VI Antioch 164b

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    Maximinus II Daia - Follis

    Obv:– IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys at waist, left hand holding cornucopiae and right hand holding head of Sol
    Minted in Antioch (* | AI / ANT). A.D. 312
    Reference – RIC VI Antioch 164b
    Patchy silver making a pleasing photo difficult.

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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love these.

    Maximinus II 7.jpg
    MAXIMINUS II DAIAAE Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS PF AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GENI-O-AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Serapis and cornucopiae. X-A across fields; ALE in ex.
    Struck at Alexandria 312 AD
    4.83g, 21mm
    RIC VI 149b Ex Spink

    Hadrian 5.jpg
    HADRIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, laureate head right, draped left shoulder
    REVERSE: P M TR P COS III, Aeternitas standing front, head left, holding the heads of the sun and moon
    Struck at Rome, 119-121AD
    3.0g, 18mm
    RIC 115, C 131
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I LOVE this type as well...and because of so many posts/threads, I finally grabbed this one late last year.


    Silvered Follis of Maximinus II Daia
    Heraclea mint 313 AD; 22mm, 4.25 grams
    IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINUS P F AVG
    Laureate head right
    SOLI IN-VICTO; Delta left, SMHT in exergue
    Sol standing facing, head left holding bust of Serapis, and raising hand.
    RIC 78

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  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have one of these too but it isn't too great.

    Maximinus II Daia - Follis


    Obv:– IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– SOLI IN-VICTO, Sol standing left in long robe, right hand raised, left hand holding head of Serapis
    Minted in Antioch (A | * // ANT).
    Reference(s) – RIC VI Antioch 167b

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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    While googling "head john baptist coin" I came across this 1742 Tarì coin of the Knights Hospitaller, depicting the head of Saint John the Baptist on a silver round platter.

    John the baptist coin.JPG

    Now I have to get one!
     
  12. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I'd like to learn a little bit about the "holding the head of X" iconography. To my modern sensibility, it seems a little creepy, as if one is holding a severed head. But I wonder what relation this iconography has to the "parade of ancestors" tradition in which patrician Romans walked on solemn occasions carrying the busts of ancestors, as pictured. Are we to think that these figures on the coins are carrying similar sculpted busts of Serapis, etc. to suggest similar veneration or "family" connection? Certainly that's not an actual head...or is it?

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    Image source: http://slideplayer.com/slide/5294381/
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's VERY insightful!
     
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  14. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Another interesting feature is the palm branch on the left at the patrician's feet. Note how there is a palm branch on the left at Genius' feet in @Severus Alexander 's coin, above.
     
  15. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I'm inclined to think that's just some control mark. But it is an interesting parallel to a feature of the sculpture I overlooked. In the sculpture it seems to provide some kind of structural balance, but the palm leaf in both cases may reflect some kind of honorific function, just as the palm became associated with victory in the writings of Paul and in early Christianity as the reward for martyrs and, later, pilgrims.
     
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  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer


    from an earlier post


     
  17. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the explanation and the link Victor.
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have always been fascinated by this practice of reverence for Roman ancestry. I felt the same regarding coins featuring a head as rather reverance of a bust.
     
  19. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    These are really interesting!
     
  20. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Some lovely coins in this post. Mine is not lovely at all, a rather green one from Alexandria:

    Maximinus II - Follis Genius w Head of Serapis $5 B.O. Feb 2017zz (2).JPG


    Maximinus II Æ Follis
    (311-313 A.D.)
    Alexandria Mint

    IMP C GAL VAL MAXIM
    INVS P F AVG, head right
    / GENIO AVGVSTI, genius
    holding Serapis, head, star
    top left, N left, branch lower
    left, Δ right, ALE in exergue.
    RIC Alex. 160b; Sear 14843.

    Wonder if Shakespeare dug one of these up in the ruins of old Londinium - from Wikipedia:

    Tennant_and_Tchaikowsky_as_Hamlet_and_Yorick.jpg


    David Tennant used the skull of pianist André Tchaikowsky for Yorick's skull in a 2008 Royal Shakespeare Company production.
     
  21. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

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