I'm trying to come up with reasonable asking prices for each of the three Maria Theresa Thalers with Chinese counterstrikes in the attached images (ignore the coin upper left). I found a website listing such counterstrikes. H103 references "Varying chinese chop marks" from the 1920s: http://www.theresia.name/cgi-bin/Token.cgi?City=Gegenstempel&Page=2 That page lists a value of $250 in VF. Without counterstrikes these tend to sell around melt. Does anybody have any idea what kind of premium is realistic by virtue of the chop marks? Thanks.
Usually sir the chopmarks are a detriment to value. What might be happening is that the examples old enough to have chopmarks are the older style MT's. They are not all the same coin, and there are tiny differences that differentiate when they were struck, and hence collector value. There are some MT's very valuable, and not just worth bullion value. While chopmarks are akin to counterstamps which can increase value, most western collectors have not begun to collect them, which is why chinese chopmarks usually decrease value of an item. Hope that helped. Chris
You must remember as well that Maria Theresa thalers were produced from 1786 to the mid 1960's. The dates can only be roughly determined by die varieties, and these are extremely precise. The website you visited gives the value for those SPECIFIC varieties. Check here to try to ID yours: http://www.theresia.name/en/svariants.html
British and Italian copies of an Austrian coin. The Chinese chop marks were added during circulation.