Many Various Coins to Valuate: How to proceed?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Billincolo, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    I have just received an estate share of highly eclectic "collection" of American single coins, proof sets, uncirculated sets, individual cents, some foreign proof sets and rolls of Canadian dimes, Japanese proof sets, etc.,etc., as well as commemorative medals of US Presidents (no gold) and silver 1-ounce bars.

    (Also: Many Kennedy Halves that are very unattractively "toned": Almost black in a crescent shape around and about 1/4 in from the obverse or reverse edges, etc. Does this destroy their value except for melt?)

    I don't know quite where to start in trying to valuate these. I can start with the Red Book for the US coins, but there are many various coins and "medals" on which I can't even guess.

    Anyone have suggestions for sources of values?
     
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  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    ll the stuff that you dont know try posting pics in the Ancient & world forum as I am quite sure that some of us will know LOL
     
  4. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    Thanks -- I'll do that.

    Any other ideas?
     
  5. Upvalley

    Upvalley Senior Member

    I was in a similar situation recently and contacted a reputable local dealer to look at the coins. He was willing to do so for free as long as he had a crack at buying them if I was going to sell them. He gave me time after his evaluation to check prices etc. I believe that is a good way to go if you can find a similar deal.
     
  6. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    You can also check for current and completed listings of the same items on Ebay.
     
  7. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    How about a quick and dirty way to evaluate a hoard like this when buying from someone? How do you know how much to pay for foreign?
     
  8. chip

    chip Novice collector

    The first question I have is what sort of valuation are you looking for? Are you looking for what price you should get if you sell, or are you looking for what value you should insure the collection for in case of loss? There is a big difference.
    If you got these coins as part of an estate distribution perhaps you should ask the executor what value was assigned to the coins, how he/she arrived at the estimation.
    With coins there is no exact figure to put on any coins, experts often disagree as to the graded condition of the coin, and also the market for it. Usually plus or minus ten percent is considered a good appraisal.
     
  9. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    As to what chip said. So much depends on what you are trying to find. A selling value, a collection value, insurance value, what?
    Naturally first sort out the US coins. Then sort out things like proof sets, raw coins, coins in slabs, etc.
    As to all your US coins I would just use the latest edition of the Red Book. Estimate the approxiamate grade, condition, of the coins and see what is listed in that book. Then, since everyone knows those prices are excessive, reduce all your estimates by about 25%.
    However, that would be the selling prices if you were to be dealer or try selling on the internet in ebay, for example. If your intentions are to just sell them, most dealers will try to low ball you so you should really know what you have first. Then expect them to offer you about half of what you think they are worth since they must resell them and make a profit to live by.
    As for foreign coins as already mentioned try that forum right here.
     
  10. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    Thanks everyone -- I'm looking to find a selling value for most of these, but I will keep some.

    Part of the collection is about 20 pounds of cents, from 1909 to 1980's; from about 1935 on, there are square tubes of them by year, many uncirculated and some I've looked at actually in great condition that my untrained eyes would say might be AU in grade. What to do with those is a big question.

    Some of the coins are presenting a mystery. For example, the "National Bicentennial Medal," from the US Mint and appearing to be a silver dollar 1-ounce proof ... I can't find any mention of it in any books - Red Book, Black Book, etc. etc. Where would I search for a valuation on that kind of thing?

    Also, I have two 1970 "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" Proof sets, apparently the last of their coinage before they went on the decimal system ... but I can't find any value or mention of the proof sets anywhere. Should I post a picture in the foreign coins forum? And a Royal Canadian Mint roll of 1968 Canadian dimes, mostly BU from the look of them... etc.etc.

    I did finally find a retail value for the 1953 100 Yen note, which is unfolded and in CU condition.
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    On Kennedy's it is to soon to tell if you had post so photo's it would be a lot easier to tell U
     

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  12. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    Thanks again -- I will post photos of representative coins later today.
     
  13. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    I would do exactly what "Just Carl" said. It is the easiest way. Then you can evaluate the silver value, conditions, quantity...etc....

    Good luck
     
  14. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    I've put some photos in the Foreign Coins section.

    One question here, though about a specific commemorative coin. well, two of 'em.

    One is "gold," the other is silver. I believe the silver one is .925 - (Sterling?) But the gold one -- I don't know what it is. I have the box and the flyer, but the flyer doesn't reveal the coin's makeup. eBay is no help: Prices there range from starting at $9.95 to $550.00 "buy it now."

    Anyone know for sure about both of these?
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    Many thanks in advance ...
     
  15. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    A question Franklin Mint or Medailic Arts Company. who made them???
     
  16. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    Thanks for the response and question. That question has been part of the puzzle. Shown in the photo below is everything I have on each of these. There is no indication of who made them -- From the logo on the paperwork, they are "official" licensed American Bicentennial Commission medals. They are "twins" of each other, though the golden medal doesn't have the mirror finish that the silver medal has. Both are in identical boxes, both labeled the same (see photo), with no labeling on the outside. The only official's name is "John Warner," on the flyer. (The flyer says nothing about the coin's metals, weight, etc.)

    One reason I'd like to find out exactly what these are and assign a value is that they were divided by a brother-in-law who called the golden coin "Gold," and equated its value "as gold" to the value of other coins which he divided between himself and the other sibling in the estate. He didn't use any kind of expert guidance in this. It's one of those messy family deals -- nuff said. If this golden coin is only gold plated, I need to know but after searching for hours, I can't find any definitive information online. Hope you can help -- someone --
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  17. chip

    chip Novice collector

    the soft mushy features of the coin listed as gold make me think that it is a cast coin, I would ask the executor of the estate what values he assigned to the coins, I would guess bullion value, which is what I have done with junk silver coins from my dads estate, I know that there are tons of places where those coins can be sold for 9 times face value. With gold, I am not as sure how that bullion is bought, I would guess it would be based on spot prices, check LME or Kitco to see how spot prices change on almost daily basis.
    I would just ask him/her, how he assigned a value to the items.
     
  18. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    I would like to discover exactly what the coin actually is, before I ask the brother-in-law how he assigned a value. I agree, it appears to be cast rather than stamped (the golden coin).

    It gets even worse with the cents.
     
  19. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    Not sure if this will be of any help
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  20. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    Thanks -- I hadn't seen that ad. I believe it does answer the question about the silver coin, but it leaves the golden coin undefined.

    The golden coin I have is exactly the same size as the silver coin.

    I'm wondering if the golden version was not issued by the US Mint, as thesilver one was, but by a private mint as an authorized copy?

    There was just too much of this stuff issued, imho.
     
  21. Billincolo

    Billincolo Senior Member

    And here are a few 1964 Kennedy halves: All but one top right corner) is an example of how not to store coins. I don't know how the old Father-in-law stored 'em, but they sure got wrecked. I'll keep 'em for 90% bullion.

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    Next ... what to do with all the cents? (1909 through the mid-'80's). Some are really nice. Most of the tubes are over half full. I'd like to sell rather than hold, but ... where to start? Individual sales on eBay seems like too much trouble ... Any ideas?
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