Magnentius - Usurper Amidst The Constantines

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    One of my last purchases of 2021 arrived today, fresh from @John Anthony 's JAZ Auction last week. I've been wanting an example of Magnentius ever since I first laid eyes on his big goofy head several years ago. Finally, after many attempts, I managed to snag this one and I couldn't be happier.

    This coin checks off two boxes for me: A big goofy head of Magnentius and a reverse featuring some beautiful Victories.

    Magnentius, Centenionalus, VICT DD NN AVGG ET CAESS, RP.png
    Magnentius
    Centenionalis
    350-353 AD
    Rome
    Obverse: DN MAGNEN-TIVS PF AVG, bare-headed, draped, cuirassed bust right, Γ behind bust Reverse: VICT DD NN AVG ET CAES, Two Victories, standing facing each other, holding shield inscribed VOT-V-MVLT-X between them. No supporting column. Star in centre
    Mintmark RP

    Magnentius did pretty well for himself as the commander of the Imperial Guards under Constans, as was proven when Constans' dissatisfied troops proclaimed him Emperor on 18 January 350. He was fairly tolerant to both Pagan and Christians which garnered him support in Britannia, Hispania, and Gaul.

    Constans, AE3, VICTORIAE DD AVGGQ NN, SMTSB.png
    Constans
    AE3
    347-348 AD
    Obverse: CONSTANS-PF AVG, rosette diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right VICTORIAE DD AVGGQ NN, Two Victories facing each other, each holding wreaths and palm branches.
    Mintmark: SMTSB. Palm branch upright in centre

    Things started to fall apart in 351 when he marched east to confront the forces of Constantius II, Constans' brother. After his army's defeat at The Battle of Mursa Major, one of the bloodiest in Roman history, he was forced to retreat back to Gaul. Shortly after, Italy kicked out his garrisons and joined Constantius II.

    Constantius II, AE3, VICTORIAE DD AVGG Q NN, dotASISdot.png
    Constantius II
    AE follis
    347-348 AD
    Obverse: CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, rosette diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: VICTORIAE DD AVGG Q NN, two Victories facing each other holding wreaths. Mintmark: dot ASIS dot


    Finally, in August 353, after the The Battle of Mons Seleucus, Magnentius committed suicide by falling on his sword.



    Thanks for reading and looking at my coins :)
    Please feel free to add whatever you feel may be relevant!
     
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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    f.f., Your Magnentius bronze is a handsome coin with a lovely patina :happy:.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Magnentius (350 - 353 A.D.)
    Æ Centenionalis
    O: IM CAE MAGNENTIVS AVG, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    R: FELICITAS REIPVBLICE Emperor standing left holding Victory on globe in right hand and labarum, A in right field. In ex. TRP
    Trier mint, 351 - 353 AD
    23mm
    4.9g
    RIC VIII Trier 264
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
  5. zadie

    zadie Well-Known Member

    Wonderful write-up! Here's mine:

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    Magnentius. AD 350-353. Æ Centenionalis (22mm, 4.52 g, 6h). Lugdunum (Lyon) mint, 1st officina. Struck circa summer AD 350. Bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust right; A to left / Two Victories standing facing one another, holding wreath inscribed VOT/ V/ MVLT/ X in four lines; RPLG. RIC VIII 151; Bastien 192; Lyon 185.

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  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Everybody needs a Magnie. Always thought this guy and his brother had the most oddly shaped heads
    Magnentius (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    is that silvered? or just so shiny it looks like it
     
  8. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Nice pickup! I like these coins of Mags and his little bro Decentius. They remind me of the Beatles and their haircuts in the early years.

    Here are a few of mine.
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    Magnentius - Lyons - RIC VIII 136
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    Decentius - Lyons - RIC VIII 137
     
  9. zadie

    zadie Well-Known Member

    Only partially, the photo makes it look more silvered than it actually is.
     
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Now I want one of his melon-headed brother too!
     
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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That is a great portrait!
     
  12. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I only have one Magnentius, from my first lot of ancient coins.
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    Legends are mostly gone and it was difficult to photograph but with some help I was able to identify it then.

    4.24 g 21.3 mm
    RIC VIII Treveri 312
    Obverse D N MAGNEN-TIVS P F AVG, Bust of Magnentius, bareheaded, draped, cuirassed, right; A behind bust. Reverse VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAE. Two Victories, winged, draped, facing each other, holding between them a wreath inscribed VOT/V/MVLT/X
    Mintmark TRP
    @zadie - I don't think I have ever seen a better 4th century coin, not just conservation, but the style of the coin also. What happened to the upper part of the reverse?
     
  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...me also ff.....but to get'em all :D....nice pickup on that'un...i have him and a Constans l in me box 'o 4th cent.Roman(?) coinage...:) IMG_0778.JPG IMG_0779.JPG Magentius(20mm,4.14gms) & Ae3 of Constans l
     
  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

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  15. zadie

    zadie Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I've never been very much of an LRB collector but I did have to make an exception with this coin. I agree, the portrait is wonderful and to my eyes with an almost nero-esque look that I enjoy immensely. As to the reverse, the surfaces has some roughness to it, probably caused by the soil before it was found. The lettering is also somewhat flat because of a clogged die, as seen on the obverse too.
     
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  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    here are three unofficial issues for Magnentius--


    GLORIA_Lyon_Magnentius.jpg

    Magnentius
    Circa A.D. 350- 353
    19mm 3.2g
    DN MAGNEN[TIVS P F AVG]; bare-headed, draped and cuirassed, A behind bust.
    GLORIA ROMANORV; Magnentius on horseback spearing barbarian.
    In ex. RPLG
    Cf. RIC VIII Lyons 115

    Ex-Failmezger plate #452MG

    Unofficial issue


    Magnentius_FELICITAS_Trier_2.jpg

    Magnentius
    Circa A.D. 350-3
    20x23mm 5.2g
    [IMP CAE MAGNENTIVS AVG] bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right; A behind.
    [FELICITAS REIPVBLICE] Emperor standing left holding Victory on globe in right hand and labarum, A in right field.
    In ex. TRS
    cf. RIC VIII Trier 264

    unofficial issue


    Trier_SALVS_Magnentius.jpg

    Magnentius
    A.D. 350-3
    20x21mm 4.0gm
    D N MAGNENTIVS P F AV[G]; bare-headed, draped & cuirassed bust right, A behind bust.
    SALVS DD NN AVG ET CAES; large Chi-Rho flanked by N-W
    In ex. TRP
    Cf. RIC VIII Trier 320

    unofficial issue


     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Magnentius issued coins from several mints and barbarous copies are known copying some of them so there is a lot of variation available. Add to that the various pillars, letters and minor details and it will take many coins to make a full set.
    Amiens
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    Lyons
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    Rome
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    Decentius Arles
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    Decentius Trier
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    Of course we need to mention that Magnentius issued several other types but the twin Victories is the most commonly seen. That may be another thread for another day.
     
  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit I really like the the Magnentius from Lyons. The clash on the reverse is really cool!

    The Decentius from Trier is quite nice too.
     
  19. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    also relevant--

    The Chi-Rho reverse type for Constantius II was only struck at Trier and is,usually attributed to the "Revolt of Poemenius". This event would be completely lost to history except for the brief passage in Ammianus 15.6.4: “...Poemenius was condemned as a malefactor, hailed to execution and perished; he was the man (as we have told above) who was chosen to protect his fellow-citizens when Trier closed its gates against Decentius Caesar”.


    Apparently, sometime in A.D. 353, the citizens of Trier revolted against Decentius and declared their support of Constantius II (SALVS AVG NOSTRI = Safety of our Augustus). Unfortunately for Poemenius, he was executed in A.D. 355, probably for his support of Silvanus.


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    Constantius II
    circa A.D. 353
    23x25mm 6.3g
    D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG; pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    SALVS AVG NOSTRI; Chi-Rho flanked by A and W
    In ex. TRS✶
    RIC VIII Trier 332
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  21. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Nice new pickup, FF! I’m sure you love those Victories on the reverse. Here’s mine from Trier:

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    Magnentius, Treveri(Trier), 352 AD, (AE, 23.3 mm, 4.55g), Bare-headed bust to right, A behind/ Two Victories holding wreath with inscription VOT / V / MVLT / X; TRP in exergue
     
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