Lower Canada Halfpenny??

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by north49guy, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. north49guy

    north49guy Show me the Money

    Hey, I have this coin, as well as the same one from 1813. This one is an 1815 Half Penny Token. From what I have heard, this is from lower canada. Is there any information anyone knows about this or how much it is worth?

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  3. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    Im struggling with trying to understand if this is a lower Canada token.
    I say no-way Jose, its got American written all over it.
     
  4. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    That looks like a Federalist eagle to me--not a very Canadian symbol?
    Interesting with the eagle on one side, and Britannia on the other...since the US was at war with Britain in 1815. Just some random thoughts...I don't really know the origin. :confused:
     
  5. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    Honestly....I have never seen an eagle associated with Canada.
    Even tho Canada wasn't a country then, it was British ruled, and once again I have never associated an eagle with the Brits.
    Germans and Polish..yea.
    If you scroll down on the attached limk it talks about Lower canada token, tho you don't get a cut and dry answer. Hopefully someone can ring in and clarify.
    On another note, id really like to learn more about them..so much history
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    http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/PrinterFriendly.cfm?Params=A1ARTA0001743
     
  6. DCH

    DCH Member

    Lower Canada. Charlton# LC-54D1(counterclockwise wreath). VG C$10 F C$15. 6.1-6.5grams

    Originals are dated 1813 and weigh 8.8grams

    From Charlton...
    "The imitations of the Spread Eagle Token appeared after 1825 and were antedated...."

    "The eagle was not a popular symbol for a coin design in 1813. The war of 1812-4 was at its height and during this period with the Canadian colonies in the midst of an American invasion, the original issue was not well received."
     
  7. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    Ahh.,,,,thanks for the leg work DCH.
    Interesting info.
     
  8. north49guy

    north49guy Show me the Money

    I have one from 1813 too. Attached are pics. Also where did you get that info from DHC? Thanks all
     

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  9. DCH

    DCH Member

    Either the imitation- LC-54B1 5.5-6.5gms C$8 in VG, or the original- LC-54A 8.8gms C$7 in VG.
    Looks like the imitation to me, but I'm not sure from the pictures.

    Information is from the book "Canadian Colonial Tokens", published by Charlton Press.
     
  10. potomaco

    potomaco Junior Member

    I have several of these, both original and re-strikes / counterfeits (?). Found this on-line from the Glendale Coin Club: "Spread Eagle Tokens -- this is a series that began with an 1813 original that was struck by a Boston merchant who settled in Montreal, and were struck over the tokens of Bristol merchant Samuel Guppy. The originals were not at first well received because of the use of the eagle, an American symbol; remember that the War of 1812 had just concluded. Light weight imitations appeared about 1825 or later and were dated 1813, 1814, and 1815." http://www.glencoin.com/presentation_to_glendale_coin_club.htm
     
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