Lice check for Licinius

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  1. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Went to the San Jose coin show primarily for the US coins, but I really liked the look and size of this ancient. Scooped it up for $30, the seller was pretty nice and gave me a few tips on choosing ancients. :)

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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You got my curiousity up and then stopped. What were the tips and how did lice play in the selection?
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool pick-up, non_cents!! (congrats)

    I have a similar example ... umm, hopefully you're okay with me showing my wares?

    => great coin, my friend


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    => Hey, but ya definitely scooped me on price => $44 delivered (Triskeles Auction)
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, here is mine.

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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Condition wise (I did not check to be sure neither is special in some way), Steve's coin is worth 44/30 over the OP coin which is in turn worth a similar bump over Mat's. Below are two Licinius' of mine. Where do they fall in the range of these coins? Why?
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, I really like your chick-riding-the-eagle coin!! (that is certainly worth a bump over all of the others) ... ummm but yah, I'm never a fan of the VOT-coins, but I guess that is merely my taste (and maybe it is worth more than all of them, I have zero-idea)

    => great coins, fellas

    Oh, and the chick-riding-the-eagle coin is also "left-facing"!!
     
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Doug, mine was a trade from a collector here. Licinius & his son both I have zero interest in, thats why my Licinius II is not great. They're hole fillers. Neither I plan to replace either.

    Most coins from the The Tetrarchy through the Constantine Clan I dont pay much attention too.

    I actually like Valentinian I and on more :muted:.
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My two favorite Licinius coins, each costing a mere $19:
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    LICINIUS I AE2 Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate, cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: GENIO POP ROM S-F, Genius standing left, modius on head, loins draped, holding patera & cornucopia, PLN in ex.
    Struck at London 313-4 AD
    3.2g, 22mm
    RIC VII 3

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    LICINIUS I AE3 Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP LICI-NIVS AVG, laureate bust right, wearing imperial mantle, holding globe, sceptre & mappa
    REVERSE: PROVIDEN-TIAE AVGG, campgate with three turrets, no door, delta in right field SMHA in ex.
    Struck at Heraclea 318-320 AD
    3.0g, 18mm
    RIC VII 48
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Steve: A "Chick" who rides an Eagle and carries a thunderbolt is called 'Jupiter'. I suggest you not go outside in thunderstorms for a while.
     
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  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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  12. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I gave him a price range and a general idea of what I was looking for (a larger bronze coin with a diety on it). He pulled out a box with that general description, said "set aside what you like", and gave me quotes and a discount on a few.
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice new coin NC! congrats to you.

    here's my favorite licinius coin,

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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Given those guidelines, this is the best coin I could imagine in the price bracket. Slightly larger and slightly more expensive would be a full AE1 follis of Diocletian or Maximianus or a sestertius of Gordian III. Unfortunately, most of the former are minor deities like Genius and the most common Gordian III big name would also be a Jupiter. It sounds like you found a dealer who listens. That is good.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ooops ... Well, Jupiter is certainly a fine lookin' fella ...
    => God of Thunder (and Rock and Roll)
     
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  16. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Everyone should have a Licinius!
    Some of the legend is off flan, but I still like mine alot.

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  17. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    That has never worked for me. While a US collector I was always treated pretty nastily by the coin dealers, maybe that's why I moved to foreign coins and generally buy from auctions?
     
  18. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Sorry, I had to...

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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Another word for louse (or their egg) is nit. Another word for coin dealers who drive people out of the hobby is nitwit. See how the two posts here are related?
     
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  20. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Bumping. Lost my slip that had all the info regarding the coin, and can't find an exact match on Wildwinds (This seems to be the closest I could find http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/licinius_I/_cyzicus_RIC_VII_006.jpg). I have found quite a few similar, but none with the "III" in the right field on the reverse.

    Anyone got a match for it?

    Obverse: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS PF AVG
    Reverse: IOVI CONS-ERVATORI
    Mintmark: S (?) (?)
     
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  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Licinius I 7.jpg
    LICINIUS I
    AE3 Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP LICI-NIVS AVG, laureate bust right, wearing imperial mantle, holding globe, sceptre & mappa
    REVERSE: PROVIDEN-TIAE AVGG, campgate with three turrets, no door, delta in right field SMHA in ex.
    Struck at Heraclea 318-320 AD
    3.0g, 18mm
    RIC VII 48
     
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