Lessons in problem coins: Whizzed.

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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  3. atcarroll

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    Halos around the stars jump out first, then halos around the devices. A close look at the fields shows a strange pattern of parallel lines in the luster. The coin has been whizzed.
     
  4. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Is it cleaned? outline around device stands out as odd.
     
  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Sometimes, on whizzed coins, you can see the spreading lines caused by the device that moved the metal. See below.
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    If I'm not mistaken, I believe long ago it was "illegal" (sort of) for ANA members/dealers to sell whizzed coins, because they fooled so many collectors. Perhaps @GDJMSP or @V. Kurt Bellman has more info on that.
     
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  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Here you can see the only "original" surface on the coin. An area so tight that the luster or skin was untouched by the whizzing device. At least, that's what I believe, based on the pics.
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  8. NumisNinja

    NumisNinja Active Member

    I see a coin that comes from the land of problem coins-ebay.
     
  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I am not nearly as schooled as you and many others here. I purchased that near perfect blast white seated half from you several months back. Surfaces are spectacular. Near perfect to my aged eyes. Now I look at the coin in your post and it just has an unnatural appearance to me. I want to like it as I am preferential to blast white coins. But it just looks unnatural to me. Your further analysis clarifies for me why it appears unnatural to my eyes. It would be perfectly acceptable if it was a polished up part on my hot rod engine. But quite the turn off on a coin. Thanks for that.
     
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  10. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    There's a reason that coin is not in plastic.
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Whizzing is not "illegal" per se, but it is unethical and results in what used to be called "body bagging".
     
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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

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    I'm happy that I figured it out before reading onward in the thread.
     
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  13. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Whizzing.... Would be defined as taking a coin to a buffing wheel or a similar buffing device on a Dremel too or something similar?
     
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  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I started to say it was a fake.
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Having never seen it being done, that IS my impression when I read about it. Dremel especially.
     
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  16. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    fake original surfaces...
     
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  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Help me Mr. WHIZZard!
     
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  18. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Lots of problem coins on ebay, also a lot of nice ones, if someone can tell them apart they'll do ok. Once in a while I get burned by a listing with so so pics, but most of the time they can be returned.
     
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  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".


    The little citrus fruit?????
     
  20. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    It is definitely a problem coin. When I first saw it, I noticed the odd luster pattern and small lines on the surface, especially the right obverse field. This made me think it was whizzed.
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Imagine the time they put into that. :rolleyes:
     
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