I have a set of five US coins made of lead in individual coin holders. I bought them a while back. My problem is that no where on the web that I have searched using different phrases, have I come across anyone knowing of or having another/similar lead US coin set. These five coins were obviously made at the same time of various years and coins. The years are as follows; an 1890 CC dollar...a 1935 walking liberty half dollar...a 1949 Washington quarter ...a 1930 Buffalo nickel...a 1904 V nickel. They are all made to normal coin size specifications except for being made of lead. If you have any information/value of these lead replicas, even just a good educated guess I would appreciate your input. Thanks.
Soon as my battery's charged I'll have a picture. Thanks for replying. See my posts in "error coins" and "whats it worth" on the 1818 US one cent if you have any info concerning it? Thanks.
Being a long time fisherman, lead is easy to recognize. Plus the coin collector I bought these from, it was their opinion that they are lead. My question is I know replica coins carry a value and as I can't find other lead US coins like these on the web, anyone have an idea for a value?
If they really are lead and really struck they might be die trials. But lead is used in pot metal along with tin and zinc. Coins that are cast or poured into molds will often use some kind of pot metal brew because of the low melting point.
I suspected as you stated that they are made of other metals besides lead. The outside is really malleable, that's why I thought them lead. These coins with others were collected in Washington back in the 1950s. I know that because some of the blue Whitman coin books I bought are dated 1940 and 1949. All of the staples of the white coin holders are rusted really good. So I am guessing he bought them from someone in Washington. You mentioned die trials. How could I find out if they are that? Their done really well. I'm still looking for the pour and air holes as I did some smelting when young with molds but haven't seen them yet.
less value ( IMO) on the "silver" coins than if they were made from real silver. The nickels might be worth more than real ones ?
Your mentioning the nickels gave me cause to look them over. I um...notice things slowly. The coins have the proper obverse and reverse(phrases I just learned)images except the 1936 Buffalo. Seems I didn't notice earlier that both sides have an Indian head minus the buffalo. Would that give it a better chance of being a die trial? Ran through once and then ran through a second time or just maybe someone out there with a mold having some fun? But why do the other four coins correctly and not the buffalo? Man I'm having more and more questions as I go. replies/ideas/opinions really apreciated!
Die trials in lead are called spashers , the ones I have seen have raised edges . Here's one link . I'll try to find more . http://uspatterns.com/splashers.html
Here's another link , D@7 knows a bit about them . http://www.numissociety.com/archive/index.php/t-3872.html
You need to weigh the coins. If they are the correct diameter and thickness they won't weigh to specs if struck in lead. The photos look to me like coins that were over dipped. The black on the Morgan is a sign of a dipping chemical that wasn't properly rinsed. Maybe someone along the way just assumed they were lead because that's what it looked like to them ay the time. Doesn't it seem odd that someone would strike repros of a 1949 quarter? What's so special about that? You need to weigh them. If they're struck and lead *maybe * you have something. If they are the correct weight they may be washed out coins from over dipping.
lol...and the mystery of the coins deepens. I read of the "dipping" you mentioned. What a way to destroy a coin eh? I myself am guilty of using water and a dry cloth to rid a coin of surface dirt/grime to read a date/mint mark but dipping? I set the "supposed" Morgan on top of a circulated 1972 Eisenhower and they are twins for diameter and thickness. I'll have to take it to a shop that sells coins to weigh it against an actual silver dollar. Thanks for the info. So what are your thoughts on the Buffalo nickel with an Indian head on both obverse and reverse sides?
The mystery is even deeper. If they are regular issue coins that were over dipped in the 50's then why would someone dip a coin in 1950 that was struck in 1949?
I managed obverse and reverse pictures of the Morgan. Hope it can help someone out there to make a better opinion by of what it may be? a die trial or dipped? Maybe just a poor replica? Thanks.
A die trail should not be worn. Unless they didn't set the gauge right in the press. Maybe they are die trials. I don't believe they are repros. Why would anyone make a repo of a 1949 quarter or repro Morgan from a host that worn? Did you get my PM?